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Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 8:27:58 AM   
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Having just been diagnosed as an XXY male I am kind of interested to know how many there are in the world of kink and who they may be, in that I am more asking what they be bearing in mind to some, Klinefelters Syndrome is classed as an intersex condition.

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 8:55:02 AM   
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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 9:05:28 AM   
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Parade wave to Aneirin!!

How has the Klinefelter's affected you? Isn't it unusual to have a diagnosis this late in life?

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 9:31:41 AM   
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Greetings to both of you.

KS well I have known about infertility since '92, but the doctors in the UK I have discovered only pull their finger out when you help them with their job, as I found this and that because I also have a diagnosis of mild Asperger's and it was reading Baron-Cohens writings where he theorised a link between ASD and KS, I just had to follow and in my case he is correct unless the ASD I am diagnosed with is incorrect as KS is similar in a lot of respects, but I don't have the average or ten points below average intelligence level that KS people are thought to have, my Weschler scores suggest and I was seriously hung over when I did the tests.

I just needed an explanation why it was I was infertile as it was largely contributory to the depression I have had most of my life and it is I want to say bye bye to the depression so it is with me I needed answers to my questions and now I have my answers so my next job is get out of the depression and start living life to the full.

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 9:37:18 AM   
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Depression is so complex... I wish you the best with working through this new diagnosis!

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 9:45:42 AM   
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Well only recently was I able to cast my mind back to when the depression first started and it was when I was in the military and with military measuring and stuff they noticed a difference and made an issue of it and so it was tests and tests, more prodding and poking to result in the fact that I was infertile but they were not prepared to pursue it any further because I was not married. Twenty two years ago and only now do I have my answer and there was two other inquiries in those last twenty two years that didn't get to the bottom of this, which expounds loads about our healthcare system.

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 10:26:42 AM   
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*sending much love to Aneirin, as I always have and always will*


I honestly don't have any words about KS... but I hope you do know I love you, no matter what!

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 10:35:32 AM   
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Thank You A. see I do remember.

But am just talking with the dom male I see, he thinks it's great that this has caused me to accept who and what I am at long last as he knew I was tormented and lost. But I need to find a female dom now, as being both male and female sort of, I seek both but do have the preference for women over men.

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 10:39:19 AM   
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Wish I was closer. I think you and I would mesh.

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 10:41:29 AM   
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We most likely would from what I understand, anyway what happened to your plans to come to the rain?

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 1:10:04 PM   
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Long story, darlin. Remind me later, and I wil email you.


I do so miss you!! HAppy to 'see' you again!!

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 5:39:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Having just been diagnosed as an XXY male I am kind of interested to know how many there are in the world of kink and who they may be, in that I am more asking what they be bearing in mind to some, Klinefelters Syndrome is classed as an intersex condition.


I have absolutely no idea what that means (I'm still trying to figure out the correct grass seed I need).

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 7:55:41 PM   
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Aneirin,

I don't know you. But I can see from your last 10 posts that you've taken a 5 month break following a 4 month break and now you're back. But people I respect on this forum remember and cherish you. And that's all I need to know about you. You're an amazing creature. You're complex, but attuned to the human condition. Plus you know the word "voracious" which puts you on a very short list in my book.

Continue being all the awesomeness that even a stranger can see in you.

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 10:16:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie
I have absolutely no idea what that means (I'm still trying to figure out the correct grass seed I need).

http://www.nichd.nih.gov/publications/pubs/klinefelter.cfm

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/19/2012 11:22:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BambiBoi

Aneirin,

I don't know you. But I can see from your last 10 posts that you've taken a 5 month break following a 4 month break and now you're back. But people I respect on this forum remember and cherish you. And that's all I need to know about you. You're an amazing creature. You're complex, but attuned to the human condition. Plus you know the word "voracious" which puts you on a very short list in my book.

Continue being all the awesomeness that even a stranger can see in you.


Thank You !

Words that will be the aspergers in me, I love words and I sound words and when I am writing, words just smack to the fore of my mind to fit and I think what does that word mean , so I look it up and it means exactly what I had intended to put next.

But asperger's is also known as an um in an adult body and now I have a new one, there's woman in me as well which explains why it is I can relate to women better than men and why I have this insane desire to be a male belly dancer of which I have been taking classes for the past four years, but maybe now I will have the confidence for the public performance I am told I am skilled enough for.


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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/30/2012 10:39:10 AM   
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So I am understanding from the lack of interest is that XXY males, well there are not many of us here or of those that are here, they are not saying and to think this condition occurs with one in every 650 live male births, so not a rare condition by any stretch of the imagination.

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/30/2012 11:21:39 AM   
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So, are you now or planning on getting testosterone treatments? I'm just curious is all. You don't have to answer if you don't want to.


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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 9/30/2012 12:10:39 PM   
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That's the problem, I like who I am and will the jabs change me is the question, as sure it might help me put on muscle mass and also create more fat, neither of which I have now, it won't help with the infertility, that is it regards that, but it might make me a little less passive and reduce my risk of osteoporosis in later life, but I have existed up to now the way I am so is change from what I am used to worth it is a good question of which the medics so far seem pretty clueless in answering.

So, probably not unless osteoporosis is highly likely and even then I will have to do some deep pondering about as I am one that does not do what doctor says automatically.

But the KS does explain my sub tendencies as passive is typical of KS individuals and not just passive because one wants to be, but because one naturally is. It also explains an interest I have been resisting all these years, an interest in cross dressing and perhaps why I am sexually attracted to both male and female as I look at XXY as a person who is somewhere between both male and female and so an interest in both is purely natural. Not that I possess physical characteristics of both male and female, I am not that unlucky although there are some that are and I do feel for them, their confusion must far outweigh mine, I am male to look at, but inside is where it all goes a bit screwy.

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 11/28/2012 4:33:24 PM   
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I dug up this thread to say there is a new development in my XXY story, for my mother has recently said I had surgery as a child to correct something the doctors thought was wise. What that was about I have an idea, but my med records from that time are lost and so I am now understanding the term ambiguous genitalia, just lovely fine, but at least I look male.

But recent questions asked who were we in history and according to a lot in the inter sex community, we wer born eunuchs, which explains loads as to why I can keep it in my pants when confronted in the company of many women as it is my dance group I learned they called me guard dog, because when the dance group hits the town the women are not hassled by predatory males. Not that I am threatening, I'm not, not at all, but it has been said though eyes wander no one comes near when I am there. I bugger off for a pee or another pint males sidle in, when I come back they make an exit. The women have noticed this not me. And to think the dance group is a belly dance group and it appears I am as was in history the eunuch looking after.

It's not that I am not interested, I am, but I appear able to see women as friends not potential conquests, for I have the belief that carnal communication starts with familiarity, then friendship and if it becomes anything more, it either does or it doesn't.

But given I am timid and largely clueless of women I now like so many others seek a domme so she can teach me how to please her as it is my desire to please others.

Oh and jabs done today where my doc is suspecting lupus through various symptoms, but if it is I have had it for decades, but as to the androgen replacement, well, I like who I am, skinny young looking and passive it is a relatively comfortable life, I wonder what testosterone my body isn't used to will do to me and I question, is it wise given I am not typical male through the extra x chromosome so why would testosterone be suited to me.

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RE: Klinefelters, XXY males ? - 11/28/2012 6:08:58 PM   
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Considering the higher rate of depression in females than males, I am wondering if taking testosterone shots might help reduce the severity of the depression.

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