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igor2003 -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (9/25/2012 5:06:02 PM)
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
You make some good points. Maybe his involvement shoulda ended. He claims he was seeking an address is why he was walking down the street when Martin attacked him. Sounds pretty lame, but reality can be lame at moments. He did not want another of "these assholes" to get away confirms the impact of past community problems. We shall see if his actions after he called the police are more determinative then his fear while he was lying on his back. That may be the nexus of the issue.
When Zimmerman got out of his vehicle and chased Martin he wasn't looking for any address...he was following Martin, which he admitted to the officer on the phone. In a subdivision with only (if I remember correctly) three streets it is hard to believe he didn't know where he was located, especially if he even semi-regularly patroled those streets as part of the Neighborhood Watch program. At first he said he would meet the police at his vehicle, to which he could have returned immediately, but then he asked that the police to call him when they got there and he would give his location at that time, indicating that he had no intention of returning to his vehicle. Why? He had already told them where to find his vehicle and he didn't need any further address. The only plausible reason is that he was going to continue looking for Martin and didn't know where he would be when the police got there. This, AFTER the police admonished him about not following Martin.
This all plainly indicates Zimmerman's vengful attitude and actions.
Then, if you watch and listen to Zimmerman's walk-through conducted the next day, and you listen to his account of what happened while he was lying on his back, it simply doesn't add up.
First, he claims he was getting his head bashed. Yes, he had some very minor cuts and abrasions, but certainly not anything in line with his head being "bashed" on concrete. Also, look at the location of the cuts. They are very high on his head. If a person is getting his head "bashed" he is going to be trying to move his head into a position that will lessen the impact. That means trying to tuck his chin and tilt his head foreward, which would expose the LOWER part of the back of his head, not the upper part where the lacerations were located. The minor wounds are considerably more consistant with someone arching their neck backwards while on concrete, trying to throw off someone that is sitting astride them.
Now, it seems to be a fairly generally accepted fact that Martin was sitting astride Zimmerman. Zimmerman claims that he was being beat so severly that he feared for his life. For Martin to even come close to having enough leverege to cause that kind of harm, whether through bashing, pummeling, or smothering, he had to be sitting high enough on Zimmerman's body that his knee and/or calf would have been hiding the weapon at Zimmerman's waistband. Had he been sitting far enough down Zimmerman's body so that the weapon was exposed he could not have been getting enough leverage to cause any kind of serious harm. So, which was it? Zimmerman want's to convince us that it was magically both ways and that Martin had such keen night vision that he was able to see the weapon even though it was so dark that one of the witnesses said he saw two people running but couldn't identify who they were. So how did Martin see and identify the weapon in the heat of battle when it was that dark?
Again, it just doesn't add up.
As you said, we'll see what comes out in court. But from what I have seen so far, if he walks away it will be a very gross miscarriage of justice, and hopefully it will prompt the states with "stand your ground" laws to tweak them so that people can't harass someone, then shoot them and claim self-defense when it doesn't turn out the way they expect.
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