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I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the War... - 9/25/2012 3:54:05 PM   
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It's probably just because on some of my research trips my team has observed behavior hinting with a very negative flavor.
Anyway I apologize and I think we should relax and go check out a movie together
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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/25/2012 4:42:30 PM   
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Awesome! Great movie, it's a shame that Brown needs to follow the Obama policy of apologizing for everything.

Shall we continue the film festival?

We can call the sequel The White Pie Strikes Back

And to end the trilogy here's Return Of The Shoes

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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/25/2012 6:17:48 PM   
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Play whatever game you like subrob.
Someone will click your links to nowhere, I'm sure.

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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/25/2012 6:19:46 PM   
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It's probably just because on some of my research trips my team has observed behavior hinting with a very negative flavor.
Anyway I apologize and I think we should relax and go check out a movie together




LOL.... this is fantastic.... Tomahawk Chop!!! Almost, but not quite, as funny as catching Hanoi Jane Chopping at the World Series!

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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/25/2012 6:53:09 PM   
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So this is a "look at me, I can post a link to nowhere" thread.

But don't you dare to step on my toes! Oh noes, I'll just tell everyone to ignore your links exposing my hypocrisy.

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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/25/2012 7:39:50 PM   
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You didnt step on her toes. All that was shown by your links is your lack of understanding concerning these issues.

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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/25/2012 8:03:15 PM   
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Saw this on the news tonight... Loudmouth is a salaried campaign worker for Brown. Professional Asshole for the Brown camp. At the 16th annual Immigration Day event at the State House. Right after Bill Cimbrelo took the podium, skinhead came and stood right ne,t the camera I set up for streaming Bill's speech through our content provider. I asked him nicely and he just got louder. A Boston PD Sgt I'd talked to earlier came back through the crowd and had some words with him and ended up walking him back across Beacon Street and had him stand next to a. cruiser. He waved some name tag at the cop, basically didn't pay him much mind. When we broke it down later The cop was near me again. I asked what the name tag was and he told me it was Brown staff badge. I thanked him for walking the guy off to a safe distance.
Moral of story? Scott Brown is a lowlife who has lowlifes working for him and this "humor" they are engaging in appeals to lowlifes.



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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/25/2012 8:11:42 PM   
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You didnt step on her toes. All that was shown by your links is your lack of understanding concerning these issues.


If I over to the Native American "Pow Wow" Event the councils hold here in Gloucester and pulled that stunt ...OUR COPS would arrest me. They certainly wouldn't celebrate like morons.



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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/25/2012 9:42:39 PM   
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You didnt step on her toes. All that was shown by your links is your lack of understanding concerning these issues.



Bullshit, she's upset because some random people mocked Elisabeth 1/64th wanna be Cherokee Warren, but was mum when some random people assaulted Ann Coulter and our President.


There's nothing to see here, Brown denounced the chanters, what more do you want? Perhaps he should hire a psychic or two to screen the crowds wherever Warren goes... Would that satisfy you?

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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/25/2012 9:45:56 PM   
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You do realize the Cherokee Nation recognizes 1/64th heritage, yes?

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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/25/2012 11:48:09 PM   
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Massachusetts voters do. Does it even matter what they think out there?

I got mail on facebook tonight from a guy who's a.TeaParty candidate Littleton confirming the fat guy with the ball cap isn't just a paid campaign worker he's an actual senate staffer at Brown's Beacon Hill office. Which means your tax dollars helped pay for that incident.

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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/25/2012 11:49:04 PM   
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You do realize the Cherokee Nation recognizes 1/64th heritage, yes?



The particular tribes with low blood quantum restrictions require a direct ancestor listed on the Rolls, Tazzy. That's a rather important detail to leave out, don't you think?

This was discussed over a few pages, a few months ago.

What? No Elizabeth Warren thread?

I had this to say, over there.


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Elizabeth Warren took that little bit of ancestry, great-great-great-grandma, and she used it, just because she could.

I came across something interesting today, it even mentions people at exactly the same connection Ms. Warren has.


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Actually, the more I think about the non-Indians--or people with very, very tenuous Indian ancestry who know nothing about the culture--trying to be Indians, the more I think it's not so bad. I will admit, I can get very annoyed by wanna-be's. Especially, when I was younger they used to think I knew about drugs, and I could get them magic mushrooms or something. Now they just think I can get them a spirit guide. I guess that's progress. But anyway, my point is this: assimilation has devastated us. They took us and sent us to boarding schools as children to rob us of our languages. They made our religions illegal. They turned our culture into something for history class only. Now, some yuppie white girl finds out she had a Cherokee great-great-great-grandmother, or somebody says she did, and she wants to be a Cherokee. Well, why not? In the past, a lot of Indians had rituals where you could take the place of the dead. So if someone killed my son, maybe he could end our families' fighting by giving me one of his sons, to take the place of the one he killed. Maybe these "wannabes" have come to take the place of what we have lost. Why not accept them? Not make them citizens of our nations, perhaps, but let's take them in and teach them our ways and our languages and help them raise their children to be some of us. Maybe they do have a little bit of Indian blood and it's finding its way back to us. That's what I think. White people assimilated us. Why turn away those who want to assimilate back?


Now I happen to think this is a pretty good approach and attitude. My own 3/16 blood quantum doesn't matter a bit to me, but the 3/32 I pass along might very well become significant to the next generation. Perhaps they will choose to seek out and embrace the traditions, learn the language and participate in keeping it alive, explore the culture, learn the dances and stories. But they don't get to go after the goodies.

Is that what Elizabeth Warren did, though? Did she seek out the tribe and traditions? It isn't hard to do, in Oklahoma. Nope. Learn and live the ways and language? Nope. She says she checked the box in hopes that it would somehow, maybe a luncheon, come to her. And then, when the teacher had the gig at Harvard locked in, and Harvard had held her up as a symbol of their "diversity," did her lifelong connection to those wonderful cheekbones inspire her to give back to the ticked box heritage that sure as hell hadn't hurt on her rise? Hmmm... That's when she stopping ticking the box.

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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/26/2012 4:29:09 AM   
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You didnt step on her toes. All that was shown by your links is your lack of understanding concerning these issues.



Nothing new about that.

I was just surprised he thinks such behaviour prior to an election is acceptable.

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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/26/2012 5:11:47 AM   
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My issue isnt over Warren. Its the insistence that a 1/64th blood quorum is a "fake indian".

To be official, yes, certain tribes require different quorums... some none at all.

http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20220515genealogical_society_no_proof_of_warrens_cherokee_heritage_found

According to this, they cannot prove or disprove the claim. I do know, in my own family, it took 6 years of diligent research to find the documentation. My father and uncles, having been born in a time where being white was essential, was delivered at home by midwives who listed all three as white. Many of Native American weddings were never registered except through churches and family bibles.

Take a look at my photo. I hardly look 1/2 Native American, but I am.

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Nope. She says she checked the box in hopes that it would somehow, maybe a luncheon, come to her.


Actually, she said she did so in hopes of getting invitations to things like luncheons with others of the same heritage.



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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/26/2012 5:51:00 AM   
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You do realize the Cherokee Nation recognizes 1/64th heritage, yes?


You do realize that genealogists cannot find any of Warren's ancestry in the tribe, yes?
Keep grasping there Tazzy, I'm looking forward to 52 compliments for President Romney.


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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/26/2012 5:55:08 AM   
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Pst.... try reading posts before hitting respond. If you had, you might have realized we both posted the same source

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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/26/2012 7:10:45 AM   
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RELATIVE AND RELEVANT TO THIS THREAD, as a voter and tax payer, I am no longer concerned WHAT BOX Warren checked on a.form that amounts to a listing in a faculty directory. What I want to know is why my tax dollars are being spent to facilitate a number of employees of the US Senate to engage in behavior such as this
It's no longer about Scott Brown administering purity on behalf of the Cherokee Nation . It's about my tax dollars paying Senate Staffers to engage in hooliganism.
No fucking way that's cool and coupled with the fact that Brown just rested on his elbows reiterating his canned speech trying to turn this into the same empty witch hunt, followed by exclusively running that vulgar crossroads GPS ad for 24 hours, instead of manning the fuck up and apologizing for his behavior and that of his staff.
In an economy where students are leaving state colleges wanting to contribute far more than racism and bullying, our so-called "Senator" should be doing better by his constituents than to market an insult to our intelligence.


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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/26/2012 11:49:43 AM   
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You do realize the Cherokee Nation recognizes 1/64th heritage, yes?


You do realize that genealogists cannot find any of Warren's ancestry in the tribe, yes?
Keep grasping there Tazzy, I'm looking forward to 52 compliments for President Romney.



“NEHGS has not expressed a position on whether Mrs. Warren has Native American ancestry, nor do we possess any primary sources to prove that she is,” said Tom Champoux, spokesman for the NEHGS. “We have no proof that Elizabeth Warren’s great great great grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent.”

They wont find the ojibwe in me nor the black.  But its in there, at least in the measure that a teabaggers neanderthal ancestry is.  

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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/26/2012 1:19:47 PM   
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Bullshit, she's upset because some random people mocked Elisabeth 1/64th wanna be Cherokee Warren, but was mum when some random people assaulted Ann Coulter and our President.


There's nothing to see here, Brown denounced the chanters, what more do you want? Perhaps he should hire a psychic or two to screen the crowds wherever Warren goes... Would that satisfy you?



Given your video links demonstrated such a challenged understanding of the issue I am not surprised you resort to personal attacks trying to veil them in the third person.

But since you go around go around attributing assinine motives to people in this way I feel a right to rebuttal.

First, I have no material connection to the race in Maasachusetts, no stake. So attributing the term"upset" demonstrates a certain ignorance of my motives.

Second how can I feel upset about something I didn't see?
You need to improve your reasong before I will follow your typically off target links(and this is SO not an exception).
If it's any comfort, my only remarks FOUR years ago were "Wow, he dodged that pretty good" and "How embarrassing"

Thirdly "There's nothing to see here". I am not at all shocked when members of the profession  that invented the soft racism of racial profiling.


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RE: I am sorry if I caused a flap calling a user on the... - 9/26/2012 1:35:33 PM   
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It's probably just because on some of my research trips my team has observed behavior hinting with a very negative flavor.
Anyway I apologize and I think we should relax and go check out a movie together



LOL.... this is fantastic.... Tomahawk Chop!!! Almost, but not quite, as funny as catching Hanoi Jane Chopping at the World Series!


Hanoi Jane? Are you fucking serious dude? While you're at it, why not tell us what bothers you about the Roosevelts?

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