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little survey here..... - 6/13/2006 10:25:46 AM   
SingleTail69


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lots of discussion around here on the topic of humiliation but no one ever seems to be able to put there finger on it. and i know i know it is subjective and all that! but i would like to hear from sub/slaves that DO enjoy humiliation. what forms you like most and why you think it works for you?

if for know other reason than to have an interesting check list to use in upcoming sessions.
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RE: little survey here..... - 6/13/2006 10:29:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SingleTail69
what forms you like most and why you think it works for you?

if for know other reason than to have an interesting check list to use in upcoming sessions.


What I like most is the other person letting me know they have exactly the power and authority to reach into me, flick my buttons as easily as turning on a light switch AND letting me know they WILL do so whenever and however they please.

Has nothing to do with WHAT the act is- what will make me humiliated might not have a single effect on another.  It's how it pushes my own internal buttons, and them knowing how it pushes my internal buttons.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_266448/mpage_1/key_humiliation/tm.htm#266532
Link to 18 threads on discussion of humiliation

But here is my personal essay on humiliation and objectification:

Part of it is BECAUSE of my academic background, I'm very smart and very well educated. I think a LOT, I work a LOT, I am a control freak, I have moderate OCD, I am the social planner for my group of friends.

Being an object means you don't have to think, you don't have to stress, you just have to BE that object. You are there, purely and passively, for service and use. There's no need for you to interpret anything, no need for you to react, only simply to BE there.

That's a pretty awesome state of being for me.

Another part, the shown off part, is because I am an exhibitionist, I get a huge charge out of people's energy when they enjoy looking and playing with me. They are giving ME lots of attention, they want to touch ME, they want to use ME for pleasure, I can provide them with a release, with a good time, a good memory.

The sexual usage part is just part of my universal sex fantasy life- it's just hot to be used, hot to be a hole to go in, do your thing and get out. I don't really know much about that other than what I've already stated. I can't tell you why it gets me so deep any more than I can tell you why bondage does.

Something most subs and slaves can understand- it takes away choice. You don't have to think, you don't get to say no, you are there to always say YES, an object, a trophy doesn't get to say stop or get to dictate how it is used.

I am somewhat materialistic in that I like to use my money and gifts to show people I care for them. It's a physical thing I can give to show I've been thinking of them and want to add to their lives. While I understand they don't NEED those things, it's a very powerful idea to me. So, to BE the object itself, to be given to someone else, has a distinct personal flavor to it.

You'll notice- all of these reasons are about ME, what I enjoy, what I get out of it.

The Owner will pass me around and use me in ways I don't necessarily enjoy directly. He will send me to people I don't have an affinity for, partly because he KNOWS I don't have an affinity for them. So I don't necessarily always love it, with anyone, anywhere. There are definitely circumstances in which I really hate it.

While I love attention, I am actually quite uncomfortable ASKING for attention, I am very uneasy when people actually look at me and say "Now, I'm going to give you all this attention, just for you, just to enjoy, and there's nothing you can do about it."

Part of it is because not too many people are actually really GOOD at giving me happy pleasure, part of it is that I've trained myself to adapt and become what the OTHER person needs for that session, which, if it's a good match, will also be what I need.

And part of it is just my innate shyness and discomfort with being a focal point of attention. I don't know what to do with it, I feel very exposed. Perhaps a paradox for someone who LOVES being exposed, but that's why I call humiliation a "burning."

So, the humiliation and objectification is a keen way for me to receive attention, which I love, while being passive about asking for it and simply being a pretty little butterfly that people are attracted to, rather than dealing with the harder ordeal for me of directly asking and directly being told to sit back and enjoy

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RE: little survey here..... - 6/13/2006 11:34:51 AM   
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i agree with what you have said with a few exceptions, including being passed around (even humiliation) i just read this post and agreed with so much that you said i had to put my two cents in.. lol

the only thing i can add to that is that it makes me feel free to feel and fully enjoy the situations of life when i know without a doubt i am doing exactly what is asked of me.  i don't have to worry about disappointing Him or doing something wrong, when He is telling me what to do.

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RE: little survey here..... - 6/13/2006 11:47:00 AM   
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I am a big fan of verbal humiliation. I'm not exactly sure as to why it works for me, but it does. 

I also like being objectified, only for Master though. I consdier being made to do something i don't particularly like, or wish to do, humiliation, and i love that feeling. 

The feeling that the only reason i'm doing this thing i don't want to do is that it's for Master. For His pleasure, not my own. And since my pleasure stems from His pleasure.... well, i think you get where this is going.

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RE: little survey here..... - 6/13/2006 12:31:18 PM   
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Just a few basic mental safety considerations for humiliation.

Using the Building annalogy
1. there are load bearing walls (core personal values) and non load bearing walls
2. Non load bearing walls you can knock holes in or even completely remove.
3. Load bearing walls should be avoided if possible
4. If you have to bust up a load bearing wall reinforce the other walls so that the building doesn't collaps.

EXAMPLE:
Humiliation requires that you actually get to know the person so that you know if "parenting" is a core value or a non core value. Is the person heavily involved in their parenting role, if so calling them a worthless parent is likely to cause a collapse.

If Beauty is a core value and it needs to be changed then you build up Intelligence as being more important and something they have that is better than beauty. Then you can use humiliations that effect their self view of beauty.

Worth what you paid me for the opinion

In Leather

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RE: little survey here..... - 6/13/2006 12:43:36 PM   
SingleTail69


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thnx for that little peek inside Lucky! seems like a beautiful place!

some of your quotes made me laugh out loud. specially the part about being "just a hole to use". HOT!

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RE: little survey here..... - 6/13/2006 12:51:22 PM   
SingleTail69


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thnx for the two cents Archer.

being a contractor myself I get the analogy perfectly.

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RE: little survey here..... - 6/13/2006 7:03:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Archer

Just a few basic mental safety considerations for humiliation.

Using the Building annalogy
1. there are load bearing walls (core personal values) and non load bearing walls
2. Non load bearing walls you can knock holes in or even completely remove.
3. Load bearing walls should be avoided if possible
4. If you have to bust up a load bearing wall reinforce the other walls so that the building doesn't collaps.

EXAMPLE:
Humiliation requires that you actually get to know the person so that you know if "parenting" is a core value or a non core value. Is the person heavily involved in their parenting role, if so calling them a worthless parent is likely to cause a collapse.

If Beauty is a core value and it needs to be changed then you build up Intelligence as being more important and something they have that is better than beauty. Then you can use humiliations that effect their self view of beauty.

Worth what you paid me for the opinion

In Leather

Archer


Very well put Archer!! What a great analogy.

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RE: little survey here..... - 6/13/2006 7:12:02 PM   
kickinchick


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Vancouver Cin...you are so cool..and my Dom talks highly of you all the time...F.L.
smiles, Kickinchick

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