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xBullx -> RE: Grade the Debate (10/4/2012 2:15:05 PM)
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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk
(but then as a libertarian wouldn't you be more concerned about this busting the budget even more. I had always assumed libertarians were for less gov't spending)....But even going past that you do realize he ran away from those tax cuts in the debate. He isn't going to have a 5 trillion dollar tax cut.......Oh wait. He did say he is going to have one but no REALLY have one...Its nonsensical. Certainly not Presidential.
Like I said, I'm not sure that we watched the same debate. It's only nonsense when you're not listening. My wife isn't all that excited about this "political crap" as she calls it, but this that very subject she pointed out last night, "why is that so hard to understand?" She's my bookkeeper and very good with numbers so maybe it is easier for her to understand that by cutting tax, it will promote business expansion, thereby more jobs, more jobs equals more workers and more workers equals a larger tax base, therefore more money in and with those unemployed working less goes out, in unemployment, title 19 and so on. Now having said all this I know it was a waste of time, you've been spinning around this very fact all morning.
So after watching a few different news channels this morning I see that you and a good number the SP's here are falling right in line with the talking points. Does the secular underground insist you leave having your own opinion on real world matters at the door when you enter? Romney states he is for fixing this mess and after last night and the comments made by each, I sincerely believe that he is the only one out to amend the budget in ANY way. Obama is a high school kid with a new credit at the mall, no secret there, he even states he believe we should spend our way out of what ails us. But, in the end you're right I prefer an even a greater sense of fiscal discipline.
However in future debates I suspect my approval may lean away from Romney, I'm for Gay Marriage, and I’m Pro-Choice and maintain other rather progressive opinions on matters. But, this election is about those issues that are troubling us the most and the economy and the budget head that list for me. Hence fifty to sixty percent of my emphasis is upon these areas; and to that point, I am very concerned with fixing the budget, not busting it. You see, we Libertarians are very conservative fiscally. Socially the GOP isn't that crazy about us, We insist that people should be allowed to find their own brand of happiness. That's why I generally get along very well with others on a site like this, hell, a good part of my liberal social views is how and why I found this place.
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I don't remember Romney saying he was going to replace Obama Care with anything you mentioned. I got the repeal part and how he defended Romney Care, and how he said that states with a bit of help from the Fed (if they need it) should be allowed to manage their own states. Maybe it's just me, but that sounded reasonable and responsible enough, well except for California, their friggin' broke. Actually he did. He said he would replace Obamacare with what he worked on as his time as Gov. and help the states implement plans. Which, in essence, is Obamacare. That the President proposed it is upsetting to right leaning folks but it is what it is.
I went back and viewed that section of the debate and can't find where Romney stated replacing Obama Care. Again, I think my CNN version must have been taping a debate other than that which you watched.
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How so? what did he explain that was earth shattering. You do realize the tax base has been expanded these 4 years right?
Yeah I've seen that claim, but the math leaves me perplexed at best.
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You do understand that deregulation is what brought us to the brink of collapse?
I understand that talking point, and yes I understand that this contributed in no small part, but it was not the sole reason, and I also caught where Romney stated we needed effective Governmental regulation and oversight, so long as it didn't stifle business and pick losers. You caught that portion, aye? If so please don't pretend that he ignored this topic or caused the catastrophe that your champion has failed to overcome.
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You get that he dismissed 47% of the American people as not worth his time?
You know I waited until I got home to answer this so I could pull up the comment in question, again.
I get that Romney stated that, and I'm paraphrasing, he would have no success winning over about 47 percent of Obama's supporters. Now if you take that at face value you could say that is half of America. But if you take it the way I did, he states that half of Obama's supporters; the far left half will never listen to a single thing Romney has to say, NO MATTER WHAT. So he can't invest valuable time, while time and money do have limits talking to those that will stay home before they ever consider punching a chad for him. He never said he would represent them or consider them in any policy decisions though, that has been the secular spin masters doing that.
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In any event, you are a good soldier for your man...I do enjoy your saying you are a libertarian. You do the right wing talking points rather well. But sure, you can be libertarian if you want.
Is this another secular strategy? Dismiss, bash or attempt to irrationally define in a negative light anyone or anything that opposes your collective opinions.
Wait a damn minute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You guys are the BORG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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