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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/4/2012 6:14:07 PM

chatterbox24

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Now I want to tell you straight up what a collar meant to me.

I dont need any back lash, cause the whole damn lot of you know my story. Yes I was married then and I am still married. Call me nieve, call it sub frenzy, call it anything you want. But me I will call it the truth.
I wanted what lemonraspberry and lilwonder have. I wanted that deep rooted genuine connection based on honesty and electric connection and really basic love. The really good kind, that makes your heart sing and your spirit rise. There are connections like that ya know. There is true happiness to be found within yourself. Dont ever doubt that.
I have a real problem with someone calling their mate a pig or animal. Calling a servant that. They are the most loving giving real people alive, who would die for their masters. TO speak about them with such disrespect makes me really mad.
ANyone with that kind of mind condition to speak of them in such a way, or treat them in such a way, well it makes me very upset.
I knew a man like this, who didnt answer questions, who kept me in the dark, and since I was new, well I thought i had stumbled across some new social way. But the truth is it isnt NEW! Same rules apply, vanilla, bdsm, whatever you call your life or choices.
My collar I BOUGHT was beautiful. IT was very personalized and significant and bright. BUt I bought it, and it cheapened the whole experience. IT was sub frenzy it was bullshit.
I cared greatly, and while I did this, I was treated like an animal.

I just want to say, anyone who treats a servant like crap, unless they want it, is a bottom feeder. Its not the servant who is weak it is YOU.

< Message edited by chatterbox24 -- 10/4/2012 6:20:14 PM >

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/4/2012 7:26:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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here's the pic anyhow

You actually expect anyone to notice the collar?

I don't have any close ups of the collar itself.

And she values her privacy, so no face photos. I did discuss it with her first, there were a few other photos but she liked that one, so (to coin a phrase) up it went.

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/4/2012 8:38:19 PM

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Its not the servant who is weak it is YOU.

It's both. Takes two.....

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/4/2012 8:46:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

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Its not the servant who is weak it is YOU.

It's both. Takes two.....

I got very passionate about my posting. It does take two. A leader and a follower. Respect and loyalty is a powerful thing. I have to acknowledge I truly admire the two of you's relationship. I wish you a life time of happiness.

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/4/2012 10:42:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: Jumanjy

Collar for Me is a sign of commitment in both directions. The Master/Mistress is committing to care for, protect, and use his slave as he sees fit.
The collar is a physical reminder to the slave of her being owned. It is also a symbol of her submission and commitment to care for, look after and serve her Master.
also from other side a collar is a sign of ownership, it debases the human to the position of an animal. It symbolizes lack of ability to have any human rights ,It symbolizes a lack of control over ones impulses, essentially. You are no better, or worthwhile than a dog or a nasty pig.
slave essentially surrender her right to have opinion, as slaves do not have viable opinions, they are subservient in an absolute fashion to their master.

I don't agree. I am slave to my Master, I am very subservient to him, but I am still entitled to, and have, viable opinions. Master always welcomes my opinions, and if I am reluctant to give one, he usually demands it because he wants to know what I think. He appreciates that I can think for myself and still be his little slave.

Oh, and PS: dogs are worthwhile.... very worthwhile. :)

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/4/2012 11:44:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

To us, the collar was equal to a marriage.

I have a leather play collar and an Eternity collar, but since we have a somewhat 1950s arrangement, my wedding ring is the ultimate symbol for me. Obviously, it's on 24/7.

My Master and I believe the same thing. We arent married yet. But we believe that a collar binds a sub/slave to his/her Dom/Domme the same way a ring binds a wife to her husband.

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/4/2012 11:47:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: marcellarae

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ORIGINAL: WillsAngel

My collar is a pink leather collar with one d ring. To me my collar shows that I am taken and owned. I try to wear it 24/7. I have requested that there are repercussions for if I somehow forget to put it on.

I wanted pink too... collar, restraints, etc... but Master wasn't crazy about that. I gave him a gift of a remote control bullet that only came in pink or purple. I decided on the purple and, even though it's his favorite toy (he just loves torturing me with it lol), he wished it came in a more masculine color - his words (of course, he was slightly joking about that). lol

I love the color pink. My fav color. When it comes to toys Master usually lets me choose them. So I try to always find pink.

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/5/2012 12:47:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: WillsAngel

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ORIGINAL: marcellarae

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ORIGINAL: WillsAngel

My collar is a pink leather collar with one d ring. To me my collar shows that I am taken and owned. I try to wear it 24/7. I have requested that there are repercussions for if I somehow forget to put it on.

I wanted pink too... collar, restraints, etc... but Master wasn't crazy about that. I gave him a gift of a remote control bullet that only came in pink or purple. I decided on the purple and, even though it's his favorite toy (he just loves torturing me with it lol), he wished it came in a more masculine color - his words (of course, he was slightly joking about that). lol

I love the color pink. My fav color. When it comes to toys Master usually lets me choose them. So I try to always find pink.

Pink is my favorite color too, but Master really doesn't like pink. I can understand. Luckily for me, I like black too. lol

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/5/2012 4:31:26 AM

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My Master and I believe the same thing. We arent married yet. But we believe that a collar binds a sub/slave to his/her Dom/Domme the same way a ring binds a wife to her husband.

For eighteen years my collar and wedding ban never left my body and for me they both represented the exact same thing. When I approached my wife’s casket I took off my collar and put it in her hand. Then my wedding ring and put it her other hand then I came the kneeler and hours and hours, days and weeks of an empty mind.

Within my psyche the collar and ring represented our bonding, a bonding stretching well beyond the cognitive level.

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/5/2012 8:53:27 AM

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Oh Rain, I'm so sorry. You have my condolences.

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/5/2012 9:23:49 AM

Calandra

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I am so sorry to hear of your loss. I cannot imagine what it would be like to lose cubby. At least with my mom, I expected her to go first, and she had been sick for quite a while. My heart goes out to you...

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/5/2012 3:00:29 PM

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I am sorry foryour loss Rain

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/5/2012 3:07:40 PM

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To me a collar IS what it MEANS. I see the act of collaring someone to be the same as Marriage in the Vanilla world.
To ME a collar is a lifetime commitment where you will spend the rest of your life with your Master, and you will wear that collar with all of the grace and love and pride that you would for a wedding ring.

That is why I feel that a collar needs to be comfortable enough to always be worn at all times, yet something more significant than just a normal neck piece so that it's always a constant reminder that you're not just loved, but that you're more than just a love, and your relationship and commitment to each other is more than just a normal "Marriage".

I personally enjoy something loose so that when I'm bored, and absent minded I always find myself reaching for that collar... something to touch, hold on to, and play with when there's nothing else on my mind, but I always have that subconsciousness that's thinking about who and what I am.

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/5/2012 3:21:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: Jumanjy

Collar for Me is a sign of commitment in both directions. The Master/Mistress is committing to care for, protect, and use his slave as he sees fit.
The collar is a physical reminder to the slave of her being owned. It is also a symbol of her submission and commitment to care for, look after and serve her Master.
also from other side a collar is a sign of ownership, it debases the human to the position of an animal. It symbolizes lack of ability to have any human rights ,It symbolizes a lack of control over ones impulses, essentially. You are no better, or worthwhile than a dog or a nasty pig.
slave essentially surrender her right to have opinion, as slaves do not have viable opinions, they are subservient in an absolute fashion to their master.

For THIS I *Kind of* agree. Though my thoughts on Master/slave is much more different (And intense) than most.

My view on Master/slave is a slave is property. Property has no rights. Limits and safe words and rights (Which includes the right to leave), as are basic human functions. The Master decides what rights a slave has.
That being said, a slave HAS to have control over their impulses, because all a slave wants is to serve and please their Master, and make their Master happy. Being a slave has little to do with the sexual aspect of things. It has to do with the pleasure they get from cleaning the house, and doing normal day to day chores knowing their Master will be pleased with their work. Because I am a slave I NEED to have control over my impulses. When I am sick, all I want to do is clean, and take care of Master, and I fall into tears because Master tells me to stay in bed and get better but I STILL find myself feeling like a horrible slave because I can't do anything for Master.
There are some slaves that DO enjoy being "a dog or nasty pig" however most are NOT, nor do they have that mindset, and frankly find it offensive.

Being a slave with no limits or safe words (like myself) also places a huge responsibility on their Master. Yes. I am property. However Master would never take his computer and throw it against the wall to smash it. Why would a Master do that to his slave? If Master does not care for me the way a Master should (Does something that could threaten my health/safety), or does something to void a (Non existing for us) contract, I have that right to leave because Master is no longer doing his responsibility as a Master.

The act of collaring isn't a degrading act nor is it meant to be. It's one of love and commitment where the Master and slave finally say the "I do" for the question of "Do we want to be together forever?". NOT "You're nothing but a pig or a dog now. Haha!!"

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/5/2012 4:19:16 PM

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Thank you for sharing bound, and everyone
thats posted so far aswell. I've never collared
a partner, so it's been interesting to read
everyone's thoughts on it.

It's interesting to see the comparisons to
marriage as I place that kind of importance
on it as well.

In my opinion, a collar should say to a girl,
I am wanted in the most complete way, I
am desired so much that only being owned
totally would do, and "having an owner"
surly has a nice ring it?.

I guess it depends on your owner though...
Being kept in a pig pen, I'm assuming,
wouldn't be enjoyable.

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/5/2012 7:24:16 PM

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My slavery to Master IS like a regular marriage. Anything more than that and imo, it's someone who is still in the bdsm fantasy world and fluffy romantic part yet.

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/5/2012 8:45:14 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jumanjy

Collar for Me is a sign of commitment in both directions. The Master/Mistress is committing to care for, protect, and use his slave as he sees fit.
The collar is a physical reminder to the slave of her being owned. It is also a symbol of her submission and commitment to care for, look after and serve her Master.
also from other side a collar is a sign of ownership, it debases the human to the position of an animal. It symbolizes lack of ability to have any human rights ,It symbolizes a lack of control over ones impulses, essentially. You are no better, or worthwhile than a dog or a nasty pig.
slave essentially surrender her right to have opinion, as slaves do not have viable opinions, they are subservient in an absolute fashion to their master.

Wow...I have a collar on my cats, and I CERTAINLY do not feel that they have a lack of control over their impulses, nor that they are worthless--in fact, I value my cats far, FAR more than I value most human beings! My cats are always there, they listen to me when I need to talk, and they NEVER stab me in the back or tell my secrets to others. I see their collar as a way of caring for them. I want them safe and collars help this to happen.

Everyone who isn't stupid has an opinion...while a slave may agree not to express that opinion without permission, they still have them and those opinions are still worth something even in instances of hardcore slavery (such as where the slave sleeps on the floor and drinks out of animal dishes, thus being literally reduced to behaving like a domesticated pet). maybe people in the community wouldn't agree, but I can't see a Master actually considering their slave as being a "nasty pig", even if they do treat them that way...Why would anyone want to have someone that meets that description as a slave in the first place.

Humans ARE animals...Kingdom Animalia. oi.

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/5/2012 8:48:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

My slavery to Master IS like a regular marriage. Anything more than that and imo, it's someone who is still in the bdsm fantasy world and fluffy romantic part yet.

Unless it's a fluffy and romantic marriage.

(Rare, sure. But then, look who's saying it!)

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/5/2012 8:51:18 PM

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ah yes...the fluffy romantic marriage for the first 6 months when all the bells and whistles and fireworks are going off. After that it's pick up your socks and put them in the hamper, don't forget to take out the garbage, is dinner ready yet? Did you pay the electric bill? etc.... lol

If you make it past the first 6 months then we'll see how fluffy romantic it is.

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RE: What does a Collar mean to you? - 10/5/2012 9:47:16 PM

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Wow...I have a collar on my cats, and I CERTAINLY do not feel that they have a lack of control over their impulses, nor that they are worthless--in fact, I value my cats far, FAR more than I value most human beings! My cats are always there, they listen to me when I need to talk, and they NEVER stab me in the back or tell my secrets to others. I see their collar as a way of caring for them. I want them safe and collars help this to happen.

Master and I feel the same about our cats.
Master and I both do not want to have children. They would get in the way of how we want to live our lives so we've both agreed that children are not for us. That being said, our girls ARE our children. We love them and care for them, and would NEVER let anyone hurt them. We also trust judge of character for anyone that we choose to bring into our homes, and lives because cats are VERY sensitive to those kinds of things.
We would more likely save an animal over a human if the situation arises where we may need to make that decision.

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