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A "Public Service Announcement?"
I wasn't aware that "the govt." created "jobs," I thought it was people like Bill Gates and Donald Trump and tens of thousands of small businesses that created jobs.
Defiantbadgirl,.....Oblunder is the worst president in U.S. history and you want to see him re-elected? Why?
Even Jimmy Carter is badmouthing him. lol
"Here's your sign!"
Actually, its not a "Public Service Announcement". The OP is not using public funding to state factual information.
Second, the goverment creates/maintains quite a number of jobs. I'm often surprised by just the number of clueless morons that cant seem to fathom how much $3.45 trillion buys/maintains in US jobs. Or that the largest group of these jobs created/maintained are in the private sector (a group that in a set number of cases, pays the goverment back). The smallest is the public sector, whom pays for a variety of taxes (except Income Tax, since that would just be overly redundent). The middle group, are the 'down stream jobs' created by the other two groups. Since FBI Agents, Food Inspectors, White House Staff, and millions of others, all need gas to get to work, buy clothing, purchase food, and a million other things.
Yeah, its a number well over ten million. Really, sit down some time, and really try to explore the depth of one 'simple' transaction worth several million dollars. From one entity to another. This could be several thousand students starting their freshman year at a state university, to the Goverment buying US NAVY aircraft, to how lumber goes from Point A to Point B.
What REALLY creates and maintains those jobs? The amount of currency currently swirling around in the 'National Money Market Apparatus'. You and everyone in this nation are experiencing what happens when taxes are to low. You enjoyed the Reagan Administration? Check how the tax rate back then. Compare it to the tax rate for the Obama Administration that you hate so much. Back then, with taxes, money could exchange hands quickly and effortlessly. An as the nation experienced, the country grew in numerous ways. We were the leaders of business, industry, science, education, infrastructure, commerce, and a host of other marvels. Now, we have not only lost 1st place in all of these areas, but now are #1 in high debt with the inability to deal with that debt.
It really is all linked, in a massively complex and complicated system. I'm sorry that your not educated or wise enough to understand all this. Or that you dont trust anyone with anything; but fully expect people trust you with their lives and wallets, for your 'in-depth' knowledge of how things are in reality.
You want to improve the nation's economy? Understand how money moves from different sources and back to itself. Company A sells lumber to Company B. Company A, isnt going to get $2 million dollars in green backs hand to them from Company B, are they? Course not. They use Bank #1. But Bank #1 doesnt handle the entire transaction. Since the lumber has to be moved from Company A to Company B. That implies transportation, doesnt it? Company A, doesnt make trucks, Company C does that. But Company C doesnt do business with Company B, because Company A is doing the business with Company B. Likewise, transportation implies not just parts to fix broken systems (as often happens with machinery), but manpower to create them. Company A doesnt make those parts or hire the manpower, but Company D makes the parts and Company E hires the manpower. Company A doesnt buy directly from Company D initially for the parts, because Company C does that. HOWEVER, Company A buys from Compnay D...AFTER....they purchased the transportation from Company C. Nor does Company A buy the manpower to creat the parts that Company D does, since Company E handles those problems. Further, Bank #1 doesnt handle all these transactions. Bank #2 handles Company C, and some stuff from Company E. Bank #3 could handle Company A, but doesnt like the credit history of Company D. Likewise, Company B gets good loans only from the business Company A does with them. Company A STILL hasnt transported the lumber, cus Company F are the ones that actually cut the lumber for Company A sells to Company B.
Confused yet? Hasn't gotten to the good stuff yet.....
Because Company A, is not the real seller to Company B. That's Company F. But Company F is only one of several small businesses operating and hold contracts with Company A. Company A has limited leway in whether it can do business with Company F (cus Company B likes them, but doesnt do business with them directly, cus Company F's systems cant handle that). And we still havent gotten to Company G, yet! Who are they? They are the ones handling the commodities to which Company B is buying the lumber from Company A. Even though neither Company A or B, not to mention C, D, E, or F, do business with Company G directly. However, Company H does. How does Company H, involve itself with Company A or B? Well, you should know that, if you've followed along. Company H is really Bank #1, right? Since all banks are indeed companies, right? Not quite....
Not all banks are companies, but corporations. Some banks are handled under different forms of goverment (cus the 'Corporation' *IS* a form of goverment). However, all corporations are considered companies, under the law. And I'm not even going to explain this area, cus its an entire beast on its own. But for the sack of explaining this...for now.....all banks are considered companies. Got it?
Each of the companies is in different industries, even though they handle different aspects of the USA economy. We're only talking Company A and Company B, right? A simple transaction, between two companies right? WRONG! When you dumb down the information, yes, its just 'Company A and Company B' on some transaction line on some worksheet, somewhere in some storage device, that could be on Company I's company system. However, Company I isnt in the business of creating the systems it uses to storage the exact transaction on either Company A or Company B's systems. That's cus Company I was contracted by the US Goverment, to keep their systems up to date. Now then, Company I was created from the merging of operations of J & K. Neither of these companies did business directly with the US Goverment. But thanks to circumstances, including that one transaction from Company B to Company A, they exist (Company I, not J or K).
An all this isnt even the tip of the iceberg, or the drop in the bucket! How many people are employed or hired by all these companies? And what do those employees spend their hard earned money on? Well, for starters, many of them live in houses constructed from lumber.....
I'm not sure if I even explained this 'simple transaction' correctly. I think I did. Its well past when I go to bed, and I cant sleep right now. What I'm hoping you'll get from all this, is that the system itself is considerably larger, and more complex and should NEVER be reduced to a simple set of buzz words or political sound bits. I can understand and be patient if you dont 'get it'. But voting because of ignorance is no excuse. That we really should learn the material being discussed. That way, when we cut $400 Billion from the US Budget, none of us will either be:
I ) Surprised when private sector companies lay off a few million employees
II) That Companies need the US Goverment to survivie the same way the US Goverment needs Companies to surivive
and
III) These are our fellow Americans. They are our uncles, aunts, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, friends, neighbors, associates, and people we see on the street and in shops.
Or something most of us argue for/against...
IV) The unemployment rate rising the more the budget is chopped down.
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