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RE: Humiliation vs Degradation - 5/20/2007 9:36:22 PM

aldompdx

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Faramir, thank you for the actual English language definitions. Sometimes, some people believe that protocol requires them to speak BDSM instead of proper English. I personally find that to be intellectually insulting, and thus disrespectful. You cannot mean what you say, if you do not say what you mean.

Unfortunately, I find that too many people falsely assume that humiliation teaches humility. Humiliation creates shame, fear, repression. This adds more layers which cover up the ego, like an onion. Learning humility is the process of peeling away of those subconscious issues which obfuscate one's ego and impede it's transparency. That is, imposing subconscious reaction does not cause the conscious intention of ego transparency and humility.

It is also unfortunate that "de-grading" another does not "up-grade" one's self. While degradation increases the relative difference between partners, it does not produce an absolute rise. Pushing one's partner down only tends to drag one down along with their partner. The more productive method is to show one's partner the path to upgrade. Upon seeing how far they have to go, they become consciously aware of their actual position as a lower grade from their objective.

Without erasing or degrading, how does one make shorter, a line drawn on a paper? Draw a longer line.

< Message edited by aldompdx -- 5/20/2007 9:40:04 PM >

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RE: Humiliation vs Degradation - 5/21/2007 8:15:08 AM

daddysprop247

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i agree with those who describe humiliation as forcible humbling, and degradation as lowering in status/position/mental and emotional state/etc. for me neither could ever be enjoyable, but both serve a necessary purpose and for that reason i appreciate and need them both, tho probably degradation more than humiliation.

i can understand what some mean when they mention the lowering of self-esteem in degradation...tho i wouldn't call that a requirement or mandatory part of degradation, sometimes it is a reality. there have been times my Master has degraded me and it has left me completely emotionally and mentally shattered, feeling like a shell of a person, and this spurs on despair and self-pity, like "so this is all i am? this is my life now and forever?"...which will trigger my depression and basically i am just emotionally dead for quite some time afterwards, until his love and caring eventually provides balance again.

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