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Alecta -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/7/2012 11:22:34 PM)

No need, LP. I'm looking for discussion, so discuss :)
though I don't think from hearing some of these guys they expect male submission to be widely respected in the states, either lol



slave572 -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/7/2012 11:40:14 PM)

I am "Foreign Men" and "The Great American Slave Fantasy". For me Collarchat not American. For me Collarchat he is an international one. First of all I am looking for the Europeans. It is difficult to get a U.S. visa. EU visa easily. I do not care the address of the Master. I need to find it.



Alecta -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/7/2012 11:47:45 PM)

Thank you :) I suppose the way this thread started did seem a bit pointed towards yours, but it isn't really, please don't take it to heart. It just reminded me a little of a number of others who were rather specifically geared towards American Owners.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/7/2012 11:49:29 PM)

Thanks for clarifying, though, that does help, Slave 572!



WomanlyWiles -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/8/2012 3:28:15 AM)

I've had loads of men contact me from non English speaking countries. Call me cynical, but I just assumed they were passport hunters.



DarkSteven -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/8/2012 5:38:17 AM)

Television. When even Al Bundy and Homer Simpson can afford a house and family working crap jobs, and everyone on Dallas lives in plutocratic mansions, foreigners take notice.



Kana -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/8/2012 4:26:57 PM)

I just assume they are all fake



OsideGirl -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/8/2012 4:28:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kana

I just assume they are all fake


I just assume they have no connection to reality.



Aswad -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/8/2012 7:32:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Alecta

What I want to know is why look in America and not their own local area?


Presumably, CM is easier to find than a lot of other places. I've seen this sort of thing elsewhere, too.

Then there's 314 million people in one country, with one language, and lots of Internet porn.

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It is my impression that several of the places these posters hail from are far more hardcore than the generic average American BDSM sensibility as a whole and more accommodating of those "extreme conditions".


Consider that you're only seeing those that went online to find their kink delivery service.

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So where does this idea that America is the place to look if you are seeking these conditions come from?


"Everything is better in America" seems to still be a common TV trope.

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Do Americans go on to foreign online BDSM communities to look for the same?


Occasionally, but I've not seen a lot of them on our local boards.

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Non-American folks, what is the generic average BDSM scene sensibilities where you are?


Depends on the scene. It's not as much of a "thing" as in other places. Finding a munch can be challenging, in fact. There are groups that would make these "Foreign Men" quite happy, and groups that would ask the cops to bring them in for a psych eval.

IWYW,
— Aswad.



VioletViolence -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/9/2012 10:44:20 AM)

I always figured they saw all this porn, thought "That's what it's like to be a slave over in America" and figured it was a hell of a lot better than their current life.



MercilessMarcy -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/9/2012 5:09:24 PM)

I had a serious inquiry from an Engineer from India. He had lived in the U.S., his family arranged a marriage for him, after two children and 7 years of marriage his wife divorced him and stayed in New York. He wanted to be submissive but the pressure from family, friends, fellow engineers, everyone in his circle, was enormous. He was responsible for being in charge. Financially and personally.

Just like men in positions of authority dream of never having to make another decision, or at least not having to in a relationship, he dreamed of being submissive. In reality he would never escape his class and responsibilities. Forever he will be longing to.

I also question that he would find satisfaction if he ever achieved his dream. As time passes and the fantasy evolves, it would be difficult for any Domme to meet his expectations. Yes, submissives have expectations.

I see foreign men seeking dreams that are not based in reality. Escape in every detail. Escape from conditions that are intolerable.



Pyramus -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/9/2012 10:08:26 PM)

It's the American Dream!



fucktoyprincess -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/10/2012 6:45:40 AM)

FR

I have always assumed that this kind of thing, whether coming from women, men or whoever, is not really about BDSM, but trying to either convince someone to send money or convince someone into helping them get some sort of visa to the US (with the idea that once they are here they will disappear into the network of illegal immigrants). Call me cynical, but there you have it. [sm=2cents.gif]



Salinedion -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/10/2012 7:35:46 AM)

The more you can't have it, the more you gag for it.

I lived in Japan. A sub guy there is pretty doomed. Therefore, it's huge. India too. The ME is probably the most male sub-repressed place on earth.

'Didn't see much green card mania. Au contraire, if Lady Pact ever wants to date the head of Toyota, she needn't worry about the air fare (or anything else).



fucktoyprincess -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/10/2012 8:31:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Salinedion

The more you can't have it, the more you gag for it.

I lived in Japan. A sub guy there is pretty doomed. Therefore, it's huge. India too. The ME is probably the most male sub-repressed place on earth.

'Didn't see much green card mania. Au contraire, if Lady Pact ever wants to date the head of Toyota, she needn't worry about the air fare (or anything else).

I won't dispute your statement as I have no evidence one way or the other specifically as to BDSM. But those of you who wish to believe these sorts of profiles and requests from people who live outside the US in impoverished places are actually 100% on the up and up - feel free to entertain the requests. One can only raise the risks. What risks one is willing to assume is your own personal thing - just don't say I didn't warn you.....[sm=2cents.gif]



slave572 -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/12/2012 12:00:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Thanks for clarifying, though, that does help, Slave 572!


Here, as in the Russian segment of the Internet. Subject and content of comments are the same.



YN -> RE: Foreign Men Seeking The Great American Slave Fantasy (10/14/2012 3:54:22 PM)

Women and men, across the planet can make similar claims and complaints about people outside their country seeking the local men and women for relationships, and not just BDSM ones either.

There are men and women everywhere who have fetishes for other races or ethnic groups, who desire a person to facilitate their immigration, looking for financial opportunities or who are engaged in sex for hire of some sort. Never mind those who troll the internet mindlessly fibulating curious things due to their unusual personalities.


Even the people on social websites in our country are the recipient of these foreign attentions.



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