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mikeyOfGeorgia -> RE: Do you think being collared is the same as marriage? (11/13/2012 3:18:46 PM)

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Do you think being collared is the same as marriage?


Yes!!!




Iamsemisweet -> RE: Do you think being collared is the same as marriage? (11/13/2012 8:35:01 PM)

I am coming late to this thread, but in my state, under certain, fairly stringent circumstances, an unmarried partner can be granted community property rights, if the relationship is "marital like" enough. Some judge can decide if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck. So, someone who has lived with someone a long time, commingled resources, and worked towards common goals, may get treated like a spouse, even if there was no marriage license.
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ORIGINAL: JanahX

Ok - this has always been one of the things that really drives me nuts about collaring and bdsm. And that its compared to marriage. Its not the same thing.

Heres why - Ive seen too many Doms throw their sub out on their ass - after YEARS together, without a dime to their name. The sub/slave was at home doing the house-chores, running household errands, being the Dom(me)/Masters sex outlet - so as where they thought that they were secure, they really wernt.

The Dom or Domme was out making the cash - banking it, and just doling out a few bucks here and there to their sub/slave. - enough to make the sub/slave feel secure. But when the relationship ended, the owner kept all the cash (in his/her acct.) and the sub/slave had zero.

In a legal binding, such as marriage - there are laws that protect you, so that you dont end up desolate - especially with community property. Unless you live in a state where common law marriage is recognized -
Alabama
Colorado
District of Columbia
Georgia (if created before 1/1/97)
Idaho (if created before 1/1/96)
Iowa
Kansas
Montana
New Hampshire (for inheritance purposes only)
Ohio (if created before 10/10/91)
Oklahoma
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
Texas
Utah

Then you might have a leg to stand on - legally.

If you dont live in one of these states, you are going to be in for quite a struggle trying to claim anything that you feel is rightfully yours.

Now I know that sub and slaves work outside the home - and blah, blah- and this of course is just a certain situation setup that Ive put out there hypothetically - but even so, courts do not recognize collars as marriage. Not even close.

How do you view it? And why?





GotSteel -> RE: Do you think being collared is the same as marriage? (11/14/2012 10:59:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet
I am coming late to this thread, but in my state, under certain, fairly stringent circumstances, an unmarried partner can be granted community property rights, if the relationship is "marital like" enough.


Huh? I'm under the impression that Washington doesn't have common law marriage.
http://www.unmarried.org/common-law-marriage-fact-sheet.html




mnottertail -> RE: Do you think being collared is the same as marriage? (11/14/2012 11:02:17 AM)

She is a voicebox, they do not have any on staff.  And I think that stringent conditions is a fair disclaimer, and the fact that your site does not actually comment on her state.




GotSteel -> RE: Do you think being collared is the same as marriage? (11/14/2012 4:59:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
She is a voicebox, they do not have any on staff. 

Does that come in less cryptic?

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
And I think that stringent conditions is a fair disclaimer...

I disagree because she goes on to state the following which don't actually constitute the requirements for common law marriage in any state:
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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet
So, someone who has lived with someone a long time, commingled resources, and worked towards common goals, may get treated like a spouse, even if there was no marriage license.



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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet
...and the fact that your site does not actually comment on her state.

It lists the states which have common law marriage, so yes it doesn't comment on her state.




Moonlightmaddnes -> RE: Do you think being collared is the same as marriage? (11/14/2012 7:41:25 PM)

Nope it is not the same but I have seen way too many married men walk out on his wife and children. Being married with children a spouse can still be left with nothing until court happens and that can take months. One friend thought everything was great in her marriage. They had been married over 10 years had 4 children together, had bought a house and he had made it clear he wanted her home caring for the house and children. One day out of the blue he left for another woman. He emptied the bank accounts leaving her with no money for the mortgage, food or any other expense. She had to turn to her parents to buy the food and pay the mortgage on the house. Their children were barely eating while he spent all the money taking the new woman out every night. This went on for nearly 6 months while she waited for a court date. The only small comfort she had was knowing the judge would rip him a new ass for pulling that crap when the court date hit.




amber90 -> RE: Do you think being collared is the same as marriage? (11/15/2012 6:25:22 AM)

Legally speaking, no. But from my understanding, emotionally, it might feel similar.




idogaydrugs -> RE: Do you think being collared is the same as marriage? (11/15/2012 8:27:13 PM)

Marriage means next to nothing to me. If with someone who really matters in all applicable ways that you want to spend your life with, sure, marriage could be a valid thing to have, but really, it's not that important. That's not to say I wouldn't or won't get married, merely that it's a secondary thought.

Being collared is more like wearing a wedding band, it's a powerful symbol. Being collared can mean more than marriage or marriage can mean more than being collared, depending who you are and what your needs are. They could be the same thing in one's mind, or to a couple, but for me personally, it means more. At least for the moment.




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