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Lucylastic -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/9/2012 1:54:43 PM)

LOL You stated it, I can only go on what you wrote, not what you are trying to convey....so it is a fail on your part... if you wish to be
sarcastic... avail yourself of an emoticon or two to help you, it reallly helps to distinguish a serious post from a "idiots", because the way you posted it, you seemed utterly ignorant.
Not a good trait on here, especially in this forum as Ron so helpfully pointed out.
Typical ones to signify a non serious response are
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Having said that , Hello Kanis and welcome to the board....


with regard to the OP AND consequent "abortion like" responses.... BWAHAHAHAHA
You are so telling in your hate.And so typically funny mentalist




JanahX -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/9/2012 1:58:11 PM)

Heres all sorts of shit on it: Read up and educate yourself.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/supremecourt/rights/landmark_roe.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade

http://www.streetlaw.org/en/landmark/cases/roe_v_wade

http://www.gale.cengage.com/free_resources/whm/trials/roe.htm




mnottertail -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/9/2012 1:59:21 PM)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11753511

The earliest record of a survival of a fetus extrautero was 21 weeks 6 days.




JanahX -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/9/2012 2:10:57 PM)

I can just see it now -

Mom and Dad in court with their 8 year old brat.

Court: "why do you bring your child in here and want us to rule to have your child put to death?"

Parents: " Because the GOP outlawed abortion - we never wanted this unruly kid in the first place, because we knew we'd be shitty parents."

Court: "Good thing the tax payers are paying for all of this."


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ORIGINAL: subspaceseven

Well, your children don't "respect" you, the answer is easy for a GOP Candidate ...just put them to death...no questions asked... so sayth A candidate for the Arkansas legislature, Charlie Fuqua

"The maintenance of civil order in society rests on the foundation of family discipline. Therefore, a child who disrespects his parents must be permanently removed from society in a way that gives an example to all other children of the importance of respect for parents. The death penalty for rebellious children is not something to be taken lightly. The guidelines for administering the death penalty to rebellious children are given in Deut 21:18-21:"

Nothing like following the bible...now what does it say about divorce?? eating shellfish??? Hmmm.....

So why is it ok for the GOP to rule with the bible, but not ok for other countries to rule with their book of faith????

For those saying the GOP does not support this...please show me where one of them speaks against this...so far not one has, not Willard, not Akin...no one in the GOP has come out against this guy and his ideas





slvemike4u -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/9/2012 2:28:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

There's a reason why some new ideas are called "slippery slopes". I don't support this (could you show me where I said that?). I just believe it was inevitable

Back in the seventies, we were warned that legalizing abortion would desensitize people to infanticide and filicide. The lefty "free thinkers" didn't listen. Your chickens have come home to roost.

As is always the case with the deceptive practices of lefties, things are done a degree at a time, when they know the end result will be a bitter pill to swallow.

You want to blame someone? Blame the dickhead Supreme Court that created law with Roe v. Wade and be on your merry way.

Off you go!



Peace and comfort,



Michael


Why are you having such an issue admitting,seeing or acknowledging that this particular "chicken" is one of yours.
The evasion,spinning and outright bullshit present in this attempt to link it to 1973 is outright outlandish.




JanahX -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/9/2012 3:16:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

There's a reason why some new ideas are called "slippery slopes". I don't support this (could you show me where I said that?). I just believe it was inevitable

Back in the seventies, we were warned that legalizing abortion would desensitize people to infanticide and filicide. The lefty "free thinkers" didn't listen. Your chickens have come home to roost.

As is always the case with the deceptive practices of lefties, things are done a degree at a time, when they know the end result will be a bitter pill to swallow.

You want to blame someone? Blame the dickhead Supreme Court that created law with Roe v. Wade and be on your merry way.

Off you go!



Peace and comfort,



Michael



So the legalization of abortion is the reason that this guy wants to have children put to death? And its the D's fault that this Republican is advocating to put children to death? Thats very interesting Michael.

Maybe its because he just wants to see the expression on the childrens faces up close when theyre put to death - instead of the boring routine of an abortion. Thats no fun.




kiwisub12 -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/9/2012 4:16:42 PM)

I wonder what the wife of this man thinks about his ideas. Hopefully he hasn't reproduced - because i bet those are some very insecure kids...............[&o]




tazzygirl -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/9/2012 4:26:10 PM)

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Proof/Source Please?


10 years Labor and Delivery.

But, lemme see what I can find you...

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In humans, the fetal stage of prenatal development starts at the beginning of the 11th week in gestational age, which is the 9th week after fertilization


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In humans, it is called an embryo until about eight weeks after fertilization (i.e. ten weeks Last Menstrual Period or LMP), and from then it is instead called a fetus.






tazzygirl -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/9/2012 4:28:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kanis36

If you ain't willin to "do the runnin'" don't jump into the debate bud. Debate requires proof of allegations or claims. If you can't do that, maybe you shouldn't make claims. - Kanis




Ah, you have a problem here.

Many of us have already been vetted for certain knowledge we posses. You flopping onto a message board and requestioning everyone isnt going to work. But its cute you believe so.




tazzygirl -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/9/2012 4:31:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kanis36


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Kanis, at two weeks it isnt a fetus, its an embryo and no more viable than a sperm, outside the woman.
Either get a clue or put up your source, so far you have proven your posts to be illogical and illinformed. Not to be taken seriously in anyway shape or form


I know good god damn and well it isn't viable. I was just asking for proof either way.



Fetal viability is the ability of a fetus to survive outside the uterus




GotSteel -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/9/2012 6:02:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
There's a reason why some new ideas are called "slippery slopes". I don't support this (could you show me where I said that?). I just believe it was inevitable


Yes and that reason is the person calling it that is using faulty reasoning.

You should probably read this: http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/slippery-slope/

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

Back in the seventies, we were warned that legalizing abortion would desensitize people to infanticide and filicide. The lefty "free thinkers" didn't listen. Your chickens have come home to roost.


Um that guy's anti-abortion. This isn't a slippery slope thing. It's a what happens when you believe what the Bible says thing just like I've warned.




fucktoyprincess -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/9/2012 6:30:09 PM)

Once again proving that Republicans/conservatives do not care about actual people who are on the face of the planet nearly as much as they care about sperm, eggs and fetuses. [sm=confused.gif]




Aswad -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/10/2012 12:22:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

This isn't a slippery slope thing. It's a what happens when you believe what the Bible says thing just like I've warned.


More like a pick and choose thing.

The Bible happens to advocate abortion on several occasions.

As usual, it's people refusing to think, not their source selection. Sources come and go, often changing along the way. A good source for today may be a poor source for tomorrow, and vice versa. Reason is eternal in any universe humans can envision, and as such a brilliant tool for selecting sources and working with the input those sources provide. I've found it most interesting to read the Bible as if it were the end product of reasonable people's ideas being passed down the ages by less reasonable and more politically inclined people. Gives one a very different impression from what the conservative fundies are pushing (which, let's face it, is their own perception of the status quo of their youth, not anything from the Bible or any other such source).

IWYW,
— Aswad.




GotSteel -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/10/2012 4:20:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Uhhhhhh. you haven't talked to many 'conservatives' here, have you?  You asked them for proof or credible citations?


I think it's great that someone is asking people to back up their positions. It seems to me that we could stand to have more evidence based positions around here.




GotSteel -> RE: GOP supports Childhood death penalty (10/10/2012 10:48:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aswad
More like a pick and choose thing.

The Bible happens to advocate abortion on several occasions.

As usual, it's people refusing to think, not their source selection.


I'll agree that if someone rationalizes these passages into meaning something different than what they say or conflates certain acts of god with a modern medical procedure then it's possible to intellectually remove or at least mitigate the horrible evil of passages such as Deut 21:18-21

But if one's in the habit of believing that Bible passages mean what they say then the best they can do is believe in fewer Bible passages.




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