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LookieNoNookie -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/11/2012 9:20:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl That has nothing to do with this. He has diversified and stopped building in Vegas. I dont blame him, the market there sucks ass. Ergo...he hasn't left Vegas, nor has he stopped investing in same (in fact, he recently spend 300 million redesigning the rooms in his first of two twin designs). He's simply putting (more) money where it will earn the best return. So would you. (So would anyone). That ain't un-American.....it's business.

tazzygirl -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/11/2012 9:28:19 PM)
quote: Ergo...he hasn't left Vegas, nor has he stopped investing in same (in fact, he recently spend 300 million redesigning the rooms in his first of two twin designs). Years renovated 2010 (all Resort and Tower Suite Rooms, villas were done in 2008) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wynn_Las_Vegas

tj444 -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/11/2012 9:42:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam As near as I can figure, his American holdings have made him well over a half Billion dollars in less than a year and he BLAMES Obama? He should be under the desk in the oval office sucking his cock in gratitude. imo, the increase the 1% have had in the last couple of years doesnt have much to do with Obama, anyone could have been Prez and the same thing would have happened.. its just this part of the economic cycle.. the 1% have had the money to buy up everything cheap and make money on the inevitable upswing in the economy.. thats all it is.. if anyones cock should be sucked, its Bush's for causing the worst economic debacle since the Great Depression and giving the 1% the buying opportunity of the century.. just sayin' You missed my point. He's PISSED at Obama. He's making a million dollars a DAY and he's pissed? Is it possible for someone like that to be happy? He's making more every hour than a lot of middle class families make in a year and he's PISSED??? When he was young in the early 60's, his dad died leaving the family with $360,000 in gambling debts and not much else. He is now able to make that much between the time you leave for work in the morning and get back home and he's PISSED. How does he thank the country that made him among the 400 or so richest people in the world? He sends jobs to China. I didnt miss your point, just imo he thinks he can make 1-1/2 or 2 million a day with Romney sitting in the Prez seat.. and he can still make his money in China too.. the US doesnt have corner on all the jobs in the world, ffs and he isnt the only American to look beyond its borders.. Imo, if it wasnt him doing that it would be someone else and maybe not even an American.. someone was gonna do it, so why shouldnt it be him? You can be pissed at him if ya want but I dont think he is taking any jobs away from Americans at all, to me its making a mountain out of a tiny molehill type of arguement you are trying to make..

DomYngBlk -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/12/2012 6:56:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 The cons couldn`t care less about jobs or embassy security........ It`s about hating President Obama. It doesn't have a gawdamn thing to do with hating Obama...it has to do with despising what he's doing to our economy. As I've said before....I don't give a shit who gets in, I know how to make money regardless of the Prez or his politics, but the people in the middle class are going to have a sorry and scary awakening if Obama is re-elected. Those people don't have the tools to crawl up from the sludge. Romney actually wants to give them those tools. I'll tell you a secret. If Obama gets elected, mark my words....I have no idea what the number is but if he does, the stock market is going to take a horrid swing towards negative territory. And then it'll bump up after everyone calms down. If Romney gets elected, the stock market will jump and then, like the other, it'll settle down. In the end, if Romney gets elected, the net gain will be a positive. And guess what happens when people who own stock suddenly "feel" wealthier? They spend. Thats fucking hilarious. Would you just stop trying the "I am the middle of the road guy and hate both sides". Everything you write wreaks of right wing talking points. The market is going to take a hit if Obama wins.....Limbaugh much? LOL

tazzygirl -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/12/2012 9:49:21 AM)
quote: I'll tell you a secret. If Obama gets elected, mark my words....I have no idea what the number is but if he does, the stock market is going to take a horrid swing towards negative territory. The Last Four Years: Since the last election in November 2008, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJI) is up an impressive 38%. http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2012/09/10/stock-market-suggests-victory-for-obama/ Indeed, Obama is just one of five presidents since 1900 to have overseen at least a 50 percent jump in the stock market during their first three years in office, joining the non-sequiturian class of Coolidge, FDR, Eisenhower, and Clinton. A positive $7.3 trillion sound byte should seem irresistible, especially for a campaign hard-pressed to brandish financial accomplishment. http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-10-12/obama-fights-his-own-bull-market Sorry, I would have to bet against you.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/12/2012 6:52:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 The cons couldn`t care less about jobs or embassy security........ It`s about hating President Obama. It doesn't have a gawdamn thing to do with hating Obama...it has to do with despising what he's doing to our economy. As I've said before....I don't give a shit who gets in, I know how to make money regardless of the Prez or his politics, but the people in the middle class are going to have a sorry and scary awakening if Obama is re-elected. Those people don't have the tools to crawl up from the sludge. Romney actually wants to give them those tools. I'll tell you a secret. If Obama gets elected, mark my words....I have no idea what the number is but if he does, the stock market is going to take a horrid swing towards negative territory. And then it'll bump up after everyone calms down. If Romney gets elected, the stock market will jump and then, like the other, it'll settle down. In the end, if Romney gets elected, the net gain will be a positive. And guess what happens when people who own stock suddenly "feel" wealthier? They spend. Thats fucking hilarious. Would you just stop trying the "I am the middle of the road guy and hate both sides". Everything you write wreaks of right wing talking points. The market is going to take a hit if Obama wins.....Limbaugh much? LOL First of all, Limbaugh is a complete moron (so is Beck), second of all, I don't take the middle at all...I have very specific opinions, I simply don't share them unless I feel it's necessary to show someone where they may have missed something pertinent. I don't hate both sides. But I can see both sides and that is the difference between those who must have an opinion and can't for their own safety deviate from same because it'll destroy their talking points, and those who have no opinion and couldn't find their butt in a dust storm. There's a lot of people who flat out won't bend (Limbaugh and Beck are two exceptionally good examples frankly...and those that follow them blindly....and there are, stunningly, millions are permanently lost). I most assuredly will bend (and any successful businessperson knows that you have to bend/change with the new facts or you're gonna lose), but I've been around the block enough times to know where the gremlins hide. Sometimes they don't show up....but if you're aware of where they do hide....you can do things to obviate same. If you simply don't know and choose to go in blind....you end up with a big stink on your neck.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/12/2012 6:58:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: I'll tell you a secret. If Obama gets elected, mark my words....I have no idea what the number is but if he does, the stock market is going to take a horrid swing towards negative territory. The Last Four Years: Since the last election in November 2008, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJI) is up an impressive 38%. http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2012/09/10/stock-market-suggests-victory-for-obama/ Indeed, Obama is just one of five presidents since 1900 to have overseen at least a 50 percent jump in the stock market during their first three years in office, joining the non-sequiturian class of Coolidge, FDR, Eisenhower, and Clinton. A positive $7.3 trillion sound byte should seem irresistible, especially for a campaign hard-pressed to brandish financial accomplishment. http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-10-12/obama-fights-his-own-bull-market Sorry, I would have to bet against you. There's a town near where I live....Duvall Washington...little shitburg. Way the fuck out in nowhere. Had about 2,000 people living in it around about 1993 or so. Big block of land up on the top of the hill, couple thousand acres, undeveloped (I live in Microsoft land, so there's a few katrillionaires around these parts) and when the real estate market was going gangbusters, some guy bought the whole damn couple thousand acres....built a nice new little sewer plant, water district etc. and built about 4,500 homes over a 3 year period. News headline: "Duvall Washington, fastest growing city in the United States, 3 years running". Still doesn't mean shit. When you have a Prez come in after the market has fallen to historic levels and the market under his Prezidency rose by 50 some percent.....still doesn't mean shit if it grew 50% from shit. As they say....a million flies CAN be wrong.

tazzygirl -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/12/2012 7:19:23 PM)
Dow Jones index closes at new 5-year high http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2012/10/05/sept-jobs-markets/1613559/

Phydeaux -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/13/2012 7:08:15 PM)
Oh please.. Print 40 billion a month (QE3) and about the only thing it does is guarantee stock prices will go up. Monetary policy put in place by Bernanke has nothing to do with Obama.

Phydeaux -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/13/2012 7:17:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: Bravo to him. The government already decides to take more than 50% of what many make. When is enough enough? Its time for Atlas to Shrug. Who exactly pays 50%? When is enough enough? That is a question one might address to the capitalist as well. When is enough enough - when I don't want to work any more. That used to be the definition of liberty - that I got to choose what I wanted to do and how hard I wanted to work. When I don't want to come up with good ideas and bring them to market. When I don't want to deal with 13 revisions to a building code in 1 year. I'm tired of being broken into - and the burglar is released overnight. And I am tired of the confiscatory parasites that want my money.

DomKen -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/13/2012 7:18:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir The government is taking away any incentive to succeed and continue to keep other people employed. Precisely how is the government doing this? Returning the tax rate to th level it was during the boom years of the 90's? Ken, It is more than arguable that returning federal tax rates to where they were in Clinton's reign would not terribly (in the long term) damage the economy. In the short term, it would; simple mathematical fact. While it would likely slow the growth of the economy (depending on how the tax income was spent), I cannot see any way it would take "away any incentive to succeed and continue to keep other people employed." The budget deal BNoehner, Cantor et al walked away from was $2.50 in spending decreases for every dollar of new revenue. So Obama was ready to deal and it was your party that wouldn't close the deal, due mostly to Gover Norquist and his pledge.

Phydeaux -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/13/2012 7:21:36 PM)
that $2.50 in spending cuts number has been widely debunked. And here's the problem. Spending cuts are always down the road - in this case 10 years down the road. Revenue increases are now. And funny thing. The taxes happen - but the spending cuts never do... http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/recent_spending

tazzygirl -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/13/2012 8:49:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux Oh please.. Print 40 billion a month (QE3) and about the only thing it does is guarantee stock prices will go up. Monetary policy put in place by Bernanke has nothing to do with Obama. Nope, it doesnt, nor would it have anything to do with Romney. That wasnt what I was implying. I was merely responding to Lookie saying the stock market would crash if he is re-elected.

DomKen -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/14/2012 8:17:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phydeaux that $2.50 in spending cuts number has been widely debunked. And here's the problem. Spending cuts are always down the road - in this case 10 years down the road. Revenue increases are now. And funny thing. The taxes happen - but the spending cuts never do... http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/recent_spending Link to debunking please.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/14/2012 2:49:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Dow Jones index closes at new 5-year high http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2012/10/05/sept-jobs-markets/1613559/ Yeah...when you add in 11% (compounded) inflation over 4 years, the DOW should be (to JUST stay the same) 16,100, and when you add in the 1,400,000 plus per year that join the work force annually....we're still down....to stay even..... (Just a smidge).

LookieNoNookie -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/14/2012 3:02:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir The government is taking away any incentive to succeed and continue to keep other people employed. Precisely how is the government doing this? Returning the tax rate to th level it was during the boom years of the 90's? Ken, It is more than arguable that returning federal tax rates to where they were in Clinton's reign would not terribly (in the long term) damage the economy. In the short term, it would; simple mathematical fact. While it would likely slow the growth of the economy (depending on how the tax income was spent), I cannot see any way it would take "away any incentive to succeed and continue to keep other people employed." The budget deal BNoehner, Cantor et al walked away from was $2.50 in spending decreases for every dollar of new revenue. So Obama was ready to deal and it was your party that wouldn't close the deal, due mostly to Gover Norquist and his pledge. Bud...lemme tell you something....for the first time (it will likely be the last but....) I agree with you on the presumption that a slight increase in tax rates will raise revenues without affecting significantly those who pay same but....we can't increase tax rates if we don't put some kind of gawdamn cap on these pricks in DC. Now, with that said, let it also be known that I posted a graph some while back that showed (contrary to many of my Republican friends assumptions...and SHOCKING to those who presumed that I always take the side of Republicans but....) over the last 50 years....(Tazzy....NOTE my next comment....in full) BUT FOR THE LAST FOUR years which are and will (hopefully) remain an anomaly...and were handed to Obama.....Republicans spend WILDLY more than Democrats. We all...Democrats and Republicans alike....need to demand that these fuck for brains spend less. Ron Paul said it best when asked "How would you control the deficit and the debt?" and he said.... "Simple....I'd cap their spending at exactly what they had last year and keep it that way until they get it right" (I forget the rest).

cuckoldmepls -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/14/2012 3:11:04 PM)
You are making it sound like CEO's are threatening people with their jobs if they vote for Obama. That's not the case at all. They are warning everyone that most CEO's are not going to hire people & take a chance on expanding their operations with an anti business, anti corporation administration. They want Americans to know what's going to happen nation wide if he is reelected. It will be another 4 yrs of stagnant growth & eventually a severe contraction.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/14/2012 3:16:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls You are making it sound like CEO's are threatening people with their jobs if they vote for Obama. That's not the case at all. They are warning everyone that most CEO's are not going to hire people & take a chance on expanding their operations with an anti business, anti corporation administration. They want Americans to know what's going to happen nation wide if he is reelected. It will be another 4 yrs of stagnant growth & eventually a severe contraction. Actually, what I was saying was that there are multiple opinions and....some are more true than others, even those that Republicans take for granted (which are, in many cases...not true). What I in fact was saying was....do your own homework. Always. Don't believe that because your check may come from the feds that....it's deserved (often, by the way...and in fact, in more cases than not....it is)...but where it's not...be aware, that's a slippery slope and in the end, if you believe you deserve it, sitting on your ass....others will follow and then....there's no place to go). That's what I was saying. (I don't say what I don't believe....but multiple people tend to believe that what I said....is what they're certain I believe...almost always incorrectly, and in every case, provably false, and fantastically incorrect).

tazzygirl -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/14/2012 3:46:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Dow Jones index closes at new 5-year high http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2012/10/05/sept-jobs-markets/1613559/ Yeah...when you add in 11% (compounded) inflation over 4 years, the DOW should be (to JUST stay the same) 16,100, and when you add in the 1,400,000 plus per year that join the work force annually....we're still down....to stay even..... (Just a smidge). lol.. cute... the bubble burst yet you expect everything to go back to where it was pre-bubble.

tazzygirl -> RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins (10/14/2012 3:47:50 PM)
quote: Now, with that said, let it also be known that I posted a graph some while back that showed (contrary to many of my Republican friends assumptions...and SHOCKING to those who presumed that I always take the side of Republicans but....) over the last 50 years....(Tazzy....NOTE my next comment....in full) BUT FOR THE LAST FOUR years which are and will (hopefully) remain an anomaly...and were handed to Obama.....Republicans spend WILDLY more than Democrats. Lookie.... quit thinking about me all the time. Its rather embarrassing.

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