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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/11/2012 9:25:55 PM   
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How do you know Beck's security didn't contact anyone? Wouldn't that be in the job description?


The Seneca County Sheriff's Office says the accident wasn't reported to police in the county.


So then it's a non story, and as usual, a progressive making much ado about nothing.

Let's see if they decide to go after Beck for breaking some imaginary NY state law Chumley made up, shall we?

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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/11/2012 9:34:33 PM   
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Let's see if they decide to go after Beck for breaking some imaginary NY state law Chumley made up, shall we?


http://www.dmv.ny.gov/forms/mv104.pdf


Are you sure you are a cop?


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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/11/2012 9:36:44 PM   
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Let's see if they decide to go after Beck for breaking some imaginary NY state law Chumley made up, shall we?


http://www.dmv.ny.gov/forms/mv104.pdf


Are you sure you are a cop?


Only if the criminal is a liberal.

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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/11/2012 9:40:40 PM   
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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/11/2012 9:42:42 PM   
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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/11/2012 9:46:51 PM   
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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/11/2012 10:27:43 PM   
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FR...

I had a vacation home in NY state and know a few guys who crashed on their own property.Mostly from drinking and doing stupid stuff.

Unless there is an injury or something else seriously wrong,the  troopers or local cops aren`t going to bust balls or give tickets.

But they do want an accident report and so will his insurance co.

A lot of folks will try to get out of possible DWI issues by avoiding reporting the crash and the cops know that. 

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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/11/2012 10:40:31 PM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		But it is a requirement to report it. The fact that Beck has made this so public.... Im hoping he does within the time allotted.

I was just finding it curious that he didnt... or that his security didnt,,, at least call.

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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/12/2012 5:19:36 AM   
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Let's see if they decide to go after Beck for breaking some imaginary NY state law Chumley made up, shall we?


http://www.dmv.ny.gov/forms/mv104.pdf


Are you sure you are a cop?



He has 10 days to report it, TO ALBANY, it's a misdemeanor if he doesn't, and you still haven't proved he was driving and not one of his security staff... You might wanna read your PDF before making an ass of yourself again.

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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/12/2012 7:02:34 AM   
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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/12/2012 8:25:49 AM   
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Let's see if they decide to go after Beck for breaking some imaginary NY state law Chumley made up, shall we?


http://www.dmv.ny.gov/forms/mv104.pdf


Are you sure you are a cop?



He has 10 days to report it, TO ALBANY, it's a misdemeanor if he doesn't, and you still haven't proved he was driving and not one of his security staff... You might wanna read your PDF before making an ass of yourself again.


Toots, you might wanna actually read.

No where did I say he was or was not driving.. and it doesnt matter if he was or was not.

No where did I say he broke the law.... yet.

You insisted it was a made up law.. and now you know it isnt.

Your ass is showing, rob... yet again.

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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/12/2012 10:41:12 AM   
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Make what up? He didnt report it according to the Sheriffs Department.
And that made me wonder


First you imply Beck did something wrong...


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All depends on the damage
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/glenn-becks-suv-was-totalled-this-weekend-and-we-have-the-pictures/
This wasnt a roll down the hill.


Then you try to imply you know how to reconstruct automobile crashes...


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Nope... just common sense. I said it depended on the damage... which is readily available from the NY DMV web site.

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barrel-rolled several times.


Looks damn good for it to have barrel rolled.


Here you base your opinion about the damage by what a reporter wrote...


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Yup.. but to me a barrel roll, several times, on that size suv would be a bit.. squashed


And again you base your opinion on the reporter's story...


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The Seneca County Sheriff's Office says the accident wasn't reported to police in the county.


Again you're implying Beck broke the law by not calling Seneca County. Beck needs to report this to Albany, not the county sheriff.


What happens to Beck if he doesn't report this? Did you know he doesn't live in NY? Is Connecticut going to suspend his license based on a NY misdemeanor non traffic violation?

Nope, it's not my ass hanging out here, try harder next time.

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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/12/2012 10:44:06 AM   
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And again you base your opinion on the reporter's story...

Which you've never done, of course.

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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/12/2012 10:44:48 AM   
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Yeah, no imaginary state law at all, golem, and it dont matter who was driving, who was not driving or whether it was this or that or anything else.   Accident, property damage, he has to report it. 



Cmon Pawn Star, tell me the consequences of Beck not reporting it... He lives in Ct not NY. It's a non traffic misdemeanor, what happens to Beck if he doesn't send a report to Albany?

Stick to bottom feeding Chum.

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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/12/2012 10:46:17 AM   
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And again you base your opinion on the reporter's story...

Which you've never done, of course.


Surely you'll post evidence where I haven't... Surely.

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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/12/2012 10:52:47 AM   
Moonhead


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And where in Flordia CPL ( Criminal Procedure Law ) is are the police authorized to not file a felony manslaughter information once all the facts required to establish probable cause is established?

Manslaughter in florida is simple. TWO requirements.

One. Trayvon Martin is dead.

Two. George Zimmerman did it.

That's it. And since Zimmerman ADMITS killing Martin, everything else is boring paperwork.

Unless, of course, you have that citation of Florida CPL to support your assertion that they can then opt NOT to file the established criminal charges?




When the officer on scene decides no crime was committed, duh.

A media account of what a rozzer might have said is proof of no wrongdoing.

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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/12/2012 10:59:53 AM   
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First you imply Beck did something wrong...


Nope... merely wondered why he didnt report it.

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Then you try to imply you know how to reconstruct automobile crashes...


Nope... pictures are worth a thousand words.

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Here you base your opinion about the damage by what a reporter wrote...


Nope, based upon the photos. I have a brother who does repairs such as these for a living.

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And again you base your opinion on the reporter's story...


On his own web site.... You did notice that, yes?

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Again you're implying Beck broke the law by not calling Seneca County. Beck needs to report this to Albany, not the county sheriff.


LOL... are you now saying I can have an accident in one county but report it to another?

Damn, I need you for a lawyer... only if I want to pay huge fines and potentially go to jail.

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What happens to Beck if he doesn't report this? Did you know he doesn't live in NY? Is Connecticut going to suspend his license based on a NY misdemeanor non traffic violation?


A suspension in one state goes into the system. He goes to renew.... oops.

** In addition to Pennsylvania, the following jurisdictions are signatories to the Compact: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wyoming. Although both Rhode Island and South Dakota have enacted legislation authorizing entry into the Compact, neither state had formally adopted the Compact. See discussion below- What is the Driver's Licensing Compact?

In determining whether a reported offense in a party state may properly serve as a basis for suspending a Pennsylvania licensee's operating privilege under the driving under the influence statute, the party state's offense need only be "substantially similar" to the corresponding section of the Vehicle Code in order to mandate a suspension under the Compact. However, in determining whether the Commonwealth can sanction a citizen pursuant to the Driver's License Compact for a substantially similar out-of-state conviction, the "substantial similarity" envisioned by the Compact does not call for a direct comparison of Pennsylvania's statute to the out-of-state statute, but, rather, requires determination of whether the two state statutes are of a substantially similar nature to the Compact. Thus, in determining substantial similarity for purposes of treating an out-of-state drunk driving conviction as a Pennsylvania conviction, the correct comparison is never between the blood alcohol levels described in the statutes, but between the description in the Driver's License Compact of drunk driving and the other state's law.

http://www.shafferengle.com/Traffic-Violations/Drivers-License-Compact-Reciprocity-with-other-states.shtml

Connecticut
Crashes are required to be reported when property damage exceeds $1000.

The deadline to file a report is 5 days.

http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/laws/accident-reporting/

Ahem

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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/12/2012 11:03:05 AM   
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New Justice Department Documents Show Huge Increase in Warrantless Electronic Surveillance
By Naomi Gilens, ACLU Speech, Privacy and Technology Project at 1:32pm
Justice Department documents released today by the ACLU reveal that federal law enforcement agencies are increasingly monitoring Americans’ electronic communications, and doing so without warrants, sufficient oversight, or meaningful accountability.

The documents, handed over by the government only after months of litigation, are the attorney general’s 2010 and 2011 reports on the use of “pen register” and “trap and trace” surveillance powers. The reports show a dramatic increase in the use of these surveillance tools, which are used to gather information about telephone, email, and other Internet communications. The revelations underscore the importance of regulating and overseeing the government’s surveillance power. (Our original Freedom of Information Act request and our legal complaint are online.)

Pen register and trap and trace devices are powerfully invasive surveillance tools that were, twenty years ago, physical devices that attached to telephone lines in order to covertly record the incoming and outgoing numbers dialed. Today, no special equipment is required to record this information, as interception capabilities are built into phone companies’ call-routing hardware.

What he really means is, AMERICAN privacy be transparent to his DoJ!






(Nice to see you treating the ACLU as a reputable source, though: I thought they were out to give your assets to minorities and take away your gun?)

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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/12/2012 2:19:50 PM   
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Let's see if they decide to go after Beck for breaking some imaginary NY state law Chumley made up, shall we?

http://www.dmv.ny.gov/forms/mv104.pdf
Are you sure you are a cop?


I'm not sure that pdf applies to this situation. From reading it, it seems like the onus to report is based on one person doing it to property of someone else. Was there enough property damage to ground to add up to $1000+? I don't know.

Like I said, I don't know if that law applies in this case.

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RE: Glenn Beck's lack of Personal Responsibility. - 10/12/2012 2:48:41 PM   
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A suspension in one state goes into the system. He goes to renew.... oops.

** In addition to Pennsylvania, the following jurisdictions are signatories to the Compact: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wyoming. Although both Rhode Island and South Dakota have enacted legislation authorizing entry into the Compact, neither state had formally adopted the Compact. See discussion below- What is the Driver's Licensing Compact?


Do you see Connecticut on the list? I don't either.

I've seen Doctor's perform surgery on St Elsewhere, that doesn't make me qualified to operate on someone, so your brother's experience has shit to do with your claim.


Again, you can whine about Mr Beck WHEN he breaks the law, it's pretty stupid to do so before the illegal act.

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