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RE: Professional Submissive - 10/16/2012 1:16:09 PM

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For a pro sub get the money first.

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RE: Professional Submissive - 10/16/2012 6:20:14 PM

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OP, excellent example of the difference between a pro sub and what people misthink a lifestyle sub is.

A pro sub is doing a job.

A lifestyle sub will submit to a Dom. That said, it is a misconception that she will submit to anyone. She will submit to HER Dom.

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RE: Professional Submissive - 10/16/2012 9:42:09 PM

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I actually know a Dom who was trained by 3 professional lady subs (they actually run a business in Wash DC..underground but not hidden or online). He swears by their training of doms...told me to find a Dom trained by pro subs because he would be more considerate of me and "treat me as a submissive princess" and not a "sex slave for his pleasure only"

And out of curiosity did you buy that? I'm oft-times amazed at the various sorts of individual growth and development that is attributed to BDSM "training".

My own suspicion is that there's a wide variety of personality traits that go into "sex slave for his pleasure only". You'd be looking at selfishness and deficits in sympathy and empathy. Probably the person also has issues with honor and integrity unless, of course, they were upfront about it. I think in the end, if you want to find a good partner then you actually need to look for a good partner.

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RE: Professional Submissive - 10/17/2012 3:59:24 PM

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I have worked as a pro sub/spankee in the past.

Taking as much care with screening as possible
Cash up front

Pro-subbing is a service, end of the day I was not their submissive, I was acting a role.

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RE: Professional Submissive - 10/17/2012 11:33:38 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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ORIGINAL: TieMeInKnottss
I actually know a Dom who was trained by 3 professional lady subs (they actually run a business in Wash DC..underground but not hidden or online). He swears by their training of doms...told me to find a Dom trained by pro subs because he would be more considerate of me and "treat me as a submissive princess" and not a "sex slave for his pleasure only"

And out of curiosity did you buy that? I'm oft-times amazed at the various sorts of individual growth and development that is attributed to BDSM "training".

My own suspicion is that there's a wide variety of personality traits that go into "sex slave for his pleasure only". You'd be looking at selfishness and deficits in sympathy and empathy. Probably the person also has issues with honor and integrity unless, of course, they were upfront about it. I think in the end, if you want to find a good partner then you actually need to look for a good partner.

Ah yeah. If Master had said he was a sub at one time or another, I would have never ever been with him. He would have lost any dominance I saw in him. Yeah, it's a sterotype and stupid to some people but that's how I view men. You either are or you are not. Even if you decide to "train" to learn what the pain feels like I would tell him like I tell Master sometimes; "It may not hurt you but it sure as hell hurts me!". I tell him that when at times he would slap himself with something and saying "it doesn't hurt that much. See?" and I always respond in the same way; "you have thicker skin than I do and I have extremely thin skin. Your body has gone through hell and back. Mine has not", or at least as much as his lol.

So basically what I'm getting at is that if he ever "trained" to be a sub to know how a sub reacts would not have worked at all for me. Not everyone feels the same physically, emotionally or mentally.

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RE: Professional Submissive - 10/18/2012 8:54:19 PM

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Why does "Submissive Princess" translate to "violated princess" so indirectly you mean being submissive is being violated? I am honestly confused... Like TieMeInKnottss quoted, I am more of the "Submissive princess" type and yes we do exist lol we may as be as rare as a unicorn and it might be hard to find a Dom as gentle or as caring but hey... I have read a lot of profiles and I realized there are different types of submissives and doms

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RE: Professional Submissive - 10/18/2012 9:46:01 PM

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Nah, you're not as rare as the unicorn. You're pretty typical and common, especially with young girls.

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RE: Professional Submissive - 10/19/2012 10:40:07 AM

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Many moons ago, princess submissve meant that the Dom caters to the sub, one who is spoiled . He gives her baths, buys her expensive jewelry and other expensive stuff and when they play it's usually something like tickling, light touches with a feather, doing what she thinks is fun.

Princess is the nickname I use with my girl. She is spoiled, when I can do so, because I enjoy it as much as she does. Baths? And showers, check. Jewelery? Ring and collar, check. Doing what she thinks is fun during play? Well...what she likes, I like; and what I like, she does. Feathers haven't been involved yet, but they were discussed, in my old school day style. Sharpen the nib to make both ends interesting; and a steady hand can use it to "draw" on the skin.

I'd say she's pretty professional, but not in the for-money way. "Pleasing" is a better term!

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RE: Professional Submissive - 10/19/2012 4:52:08 PM

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I came across this on Amazon by accident. It was published in 2006. "The Pleasure Is All Mine: memoir Of a Pro Submissieo

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RE: Professional Submissive - 10/19/2012 6:48:25 PM

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My experience as a pro sub would more correctly be called pro bottom and was nothing like this (except for the no sex part):

http://www.amazon.com/Pleasures-All-Mine-Professional-Submissive/dp/0786716487

When Joan Kelly took a weekend job as a professional submissive in a private dungeon, it seemed she'd finally found a perfect outlet for her pent-up desires. Suddenly, Joan was being paid to do things she'd only fantasized about. Having spent several years scouring the Internet unsuccessfully for a man who would dominate her in the bedroom without getting on her nerves outside of it, Joan had nearly lost hope of satisfying her sexually submissive urges. Now, using her professional name, "Marnie," she was being paid to do only what she felt like with kinky men who didn't even expect to have any real sex in their sessions. To Joan, it almost felt like being paid to practice the art of self-centeredness–—except for the part where she had to kneel and address strangers as "Master." The Pleasure's All Mine offers the reader a rare, intimate, often amusing, sometimes disturbing look into the life of a professional submissive–—one whose drive for self-acceptance and respect is as relentless as her sexual need for the services she provides.

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RE: Professional Submissive - 10/31/2012 12:18:05 PM

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I have been what some could call a "pro submissive" for years now.Doing mostly Fem-Dom videos as the "submissive".While I am a real life submissive,I know that during play scenes or videos,I am just playing the part.

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RE: Professional Submissive - 10/31/2012 9:48:55 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Many moons ago, princess submissve meant that the Dom caters to the sub, one who is spoiled . He gives her baths, buys her expensive jewelry and other expensive stuff and when they play it's usually something like tickling, light touches with a feather, doing what she thinks is fun.

Damn, where do I sign up?
Sounds like good ole topping from the bottom to me?

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RE: Professional Submissive - 11/1/2012 2:47:59 PM

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Princess submissive?
If Daddy wants a princess, then daddy gets a princess, just the kind that crosses rivers, gives up her soft limits and gives up her holes, swallows everything and does it backwards and in stilettos. NOW.
Then she cleans her toys and thanks him nicely.

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RE: Professional Submissive - 11/6/2012 3:47:41 PM

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I think that was a joke.... at least it looked like one to me.

Lighten up everyone... lol....

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RE: Professional Submissive - 11/8/2012 3:23:42 AM

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My own suspicion is that there's a wide variety of personality traits that go into "sex slave for his pleasure only".

I wonder if there is something wrong with my profile, because I seem to be only attracting this sort of "sex slave for his pleasure only" kind of doms contacting me. It's been a long time since I meet a dom who cared about my needs as well.

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RE: Professional Submissive - 11/8/2012 4:09:26 AM

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I think many age playing women like to be called Princess. Its that little girl, daddy thing but perhaps without the words 'daddy'
The daddy Doms I have known do tend to like a little princess. Each to their own but lets not dress something up to be submissive when its clearly not. The Princesses that I have known, and there have been a lot, all tend to behave like adult children.
They are bottoms, who usually like nothing more than a good spanking and they will often go to great lengths to get one!

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RE: Professional Submissive - 11/8/2012 1:36:34 PM

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one thing to note...i had many of the same issues when i first joined, because i said i was new. i notice yours says you're somewhat inexperienced, and that might be attracting all the extreme, wacko doms.

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RE: Professional Submissive - 11/9/2012 8:47:46 PM

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professional female subs sure. male no way....No female will pay...we have too many male subs throwing there selves all over us

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RE: Professional Submissive - 11/10/2012 7:49:20 PM

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Tiemeinknottss,

You have me blocked for some reason? We have never chatted and when I tried to send you a msg it stated that you have me blocked?

Wanted to say hi

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RE: Professional Submissive - 11/13/2012 1:07:40 PM

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total side note, but all the comments about get paid first made me think of something very funny from when i was in my early 20's, was at a lets say less than reputable place, having fun with a college friend....one hooker walks in complaining the guy didnt pay her after she just did the deed,in a bedroom there, and the other slightly older hooker, looks at her all serious and says "bitch i KNOW you didnt suck no dick on Credit?!??" i laughed so hard i will never forget that

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