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oregongirl -> Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 1:16:26 PM)

I was interacting with someone causally on CM and he told me that his Profile had been hacked that that is the reason why he had to change usernames and a whole of other stuff. He said the reason was because he did not log out of the CM site. Is this true, or could it be true?

Also, I have had so many worst one liners for the first contact to me on CM, that I have been collecting them (some are hilarious). I am wondering where to post that, in what section? I'm sure all of us have experienced these unfortunate one liners that come at us where we block and delete, and I would love to hear about yours, lol.

thanks!

Oregongirl



punisher440 -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 1:23:38 PM)

I can't say yes or no on the profile hacking,but there is a thread about the funny messages we get in our inbox. http://www.collarchat.com/m_4267202/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4267381
Just remember to remove the senders id from your posts...CollarMe terms of service say they have to protect the guilty....and the stupid.



oregongirl -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 1:35:36 PM)

punisher440 Thanks! And of course I would remove the ID names. \

Want to know what else is funny? I have taken a peek at the "positive Experience" board here, where some people are claiming they met their match and even collared another? Well, I recognize those usernames who have contacted me recently! Ha ha!



SpaceSpank -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 1:55:44 PM)

Being more or less secure on log out depends if you're on a secured connection with a non infected computer. If everything is healthy and on the up and up, then it's no more or less secure.

If you are on an open connection/infected PC it's not very secure regardless of logging out or staying logged in, but it theoretically gives an attacker the ability to use a stolen/hijacked session without actually authenticating themselves.

This would only really matter if they hadn't already grabbed your login information. Most account break ins are done using the incredibly mundane, yet insurmountably reliable aspect of user error.

Using very basic and easy to guess/break passwords, clicking on unofficial links to reset passwords, opening funky attachments that you should not have, relying on admins not patching known exploits or being too lazy/ignorant to change certain default settings, etc.

In the world of computers the user tends to be the absolute weakest link, and that is taken advantage of again and again.



angelikaJ -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 2:10:42 PM)

I have been here since June 2007 and am often (but not always) logged in.

I have never been hacked.

But I don't do the other things that make it easy for a hacker: be in a supposedly committed relationship while trolling here.
I think a lot of people who complain that they have been hacked were caught by their wives/husbands or other significant others.



OsideGirl -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 2:13:01 PM)

I never log out and have never had a problem.



oregongirl -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 2:20:42 PM)

Thanks everyone!



cuckoldmepls -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 2:49:05 PM)

I've done login and logout procedures for sites. Basically what it amounts to is placing cookies on your pc & everytime you view a page on a website, they verify your cookies are still active. When you logout they make the cookies expire. Doing it that way saves a lot of server work.

In order to set those cookies though they do compare the username & password with what's in the database when you log in. They only have to do it once though. From then on they just check the cookies unless of course, you log out.

It's safe not to log out, although financial institutions probably take extraordinary measures & i would recommend you never take a chance & always log out on financial sites. let's say someone stole your pc or someone just slipped into your house while you were gone & changed the passwords because you didn't log out. That could be disastrous. It could easily happen if your kids have their friends over too & your pc isn't password protected.



oregongirl -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 2:59:23 PM)

Thanks very much cuckodlmepls! I will practice logging out everywhere, especially when I do remote banking online!



descrite -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 3:03:08 PM)

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let's say someone stole your pc or someone just slipped into your house while you were gone & changed the passwords because you didn't log out. That could be disastrous.


If someone can physically touch your machine, they own it. Doesn't matter what you do with login or crypto or antivirus or whatever; physical access is compromise.

Now, in terms of whether there is added security in logging out...only if you're using a shared machine (see previous point). If the fella you were talking to was accessing CM from, say, a library...yeah, then there's obviously a risk.

His home machine, that only he has physical access to? Logging out means nothing.



oregongirl -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 3:17:32 PM)

Thanks descrite. I made one mistake quite a while back, and I might have to pay for my consequences . I did have a password to log into my computer (only when I met a man in person and had my laptop with me). I am the only one that uses my computer here at home. However, now that you mentioned that, I remember him asking me to put in my password so he could download some apps for me and I did. I went to the restroom and he might have copied over everything to his flash drive or whatever. He is very computer savvy. I am wondering if I should change passwords on every single thing that I subscribe to? I made a mistake and left my computer in this guy's hands, not knowing him fully and now wondering if I should do something to protect my computer.

I know that CCleaner is good at removing tracking cookies, but that doesn't help the fact that maybe I was compromised in that two minute interval where I went away. I remember him asking, "can I have this folder where all of your lovely sexy pics are?" And I said, "no, but I get to pick and choose which ones you can have". On and on the story goes, but I'm still wondering what else I can do if I suspect this person to get into even a document which I call Passwords so I myself can remember the passwords on so many different sites, like doggie forums or car techie forums or computer forums, and yes, my internet banking site.

I am concerned. What do suggest I do?



LookieNoNookie -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 3:34:23 PM)

"Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked?"

No....but what IS true however is (and this is documented fact)...if you log in and don't log back out within 27 minutes, Zombies will attack your residence.

Now here's another fact that many don't know....

If you log in at a parallax time frame and log out at a non parallax time frame....regardless of how long you're logged in for....Zombies will attack your residence.

Lastly, if you log in for any time frame which is not documented by a parallax time frame and you don't log out in a non parallax time frame AND you do so in non sequential numbers (meaning....if you stepped in, planning on logging in for 20 minutes but logged out at 26 minutes....non sequential....20....21...22...23...etc.)...you're just totally fucked. Zombies....etc.

I'm here, M-F (occasional weekends) 9 - 8 Pacific.



LookieNoNookie -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 3:36:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls

I've done login and logout procedures for sites. Basically what it amounts to is placing cookies on your pc & everytime you view a page on a website, they verify your cookies are still active. When you logout they make the cookies expire. Doing it that way saves a lot of server work.

In order to set those cookies though they do compare the username & password with what's in the database when you log in. They only have to do it once though. From then on they just check the cookies unless of course, you log out.

It's safe not to log out, although financial institutions probably take extraordinary measures & i would recommend you never take a chance & always log out on financial sites. let's say someone stole your pc or someone just slipped into your house while you were gone & changed the passwords because you didn't log out. That could be disastrous. It could easily happen if your kids have their friends over too & your pc isn't password protected.


Don't listen to him...(he's one of "them"....starts with a "Z"....trust me on this)....see my previous post.



oregongirl -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 3:41:27 PM)

LookieNoNookie then I guess i am totally fucked (and not in the good way). I guess I need to log out every 27 minutes? Even if I am in the chatroom?

Thanks, I think I will private message you tomorrow for a 1-1 tutorial that will keep my computer healthy and not having any one knowing my residence. Now I am getting spooked!



descrite -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 4:04:12 PM)

Sorry-- I'm confuse: was this someone you were chatting with online, or someone you gave your machine to?



oregongirl -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 4:10:11 PM)

I was in real time with a man that had access to my computer. He have since departed ways, but I wonder just how much he got.



kalikshama -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 4:18:58 PM)

quote:

I remember him asking me to put in my password so he could download some apps for me and I did. I went to the restroom and he might have copied over everything to his flash drive or whatever.


Well, I ***could*** do something like that, but it would never have occurred to me to do that.

Unless he's demonstrated sociopathic behavior, I wouldn't worry about it.

But it is good practice to change your passwords periodically - perhaps descrite can comment on this - so go ahead and changed them (and do not store them in a file named "password," lol.



poise -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 4:25:35 PM)

Instead of wondering, take action now and change your passwords. It's easy enough to do, and it
takes away all the guesswork on the intentions of anyone who ever had access to that information.



oregongirl -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 4:26:22 PM)

ok, good advice, thanks!



descrite -> RE: Is it true that if you do not log out of CM that you are more vulnerable for your acct to be hacked? (10/14/2012 4:48:14 PM)

Yeeeeahhh....it's unlikely he did a superspy-quick-copy-everything-to-a-flashstick....

But it's not hard to change your password(s), anyway, just to be on the safe side, as poise and kalik suggested. It will be a little tricky remembering alllll the places you log into, and updating each of them. Because there will always be one that you just forget to update until next June, and then you'll have to remember your old password, too. heh.

Password reuse is a big risk (using the same password for everything you log into)...but it's really the only practical way to remember your password. The problem, of course, is that when one password/site is compromised, all your accounts are.







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