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RE: What makes you a sadist? Nature or Nurture? - 10/16/2012 1:44:29 PM

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If it is indeed nature AND nurture...does this mean "switch-like"?

Maybe we are born with some inherent tendencies, but shaped through our experiences (as SD) so eloquently described.

Still, I don't believe being bullied fosters sadistic tendencies...if it did, I would be a dangerous person...and I am far from it.

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RE: What makes you a sadist? Nature or Nurture? - 10/16/2012 2:06:15 PM

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Still, I don't believe being bullied fosters sadistic tendencies...if it did, I would be a dangerous person...and I am far from it.

I'm with you on that one. I fear that notion's complete and utter crap in most cases.

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RE: What makes you a sadist? Nature or Nurture? - 10/16/2012 2:52:16 PM

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Was it life experiences that created it or do you feel it is simply a part of the innate personality you were born with?

Nature. In fact, nurture is what made me suppress it for ages.

I'm trying to come up with some sort of time frame for awakening, but I can't. The desire to inflict has been there all along. The enjoyment of the suffering of others has been there as long as I've had any sense of empathy. Always liked to see the other kids cry. I just never did anything to cause it from someone that hadn't asked for it, one way or the other, by my reckoning at the time (which I like to think was on the mature side). Still don't.

Bullying, people get to varying degrees. Too much, or too little (yes, there is such a thing), is detrimental to a child's development. Mobbing, that you mostly get when you have positive qualities your peers don't have (and it's more commonly experienced by adults), and it is exclusively negative AFAICT. Neither of the two are apt to cause sadism, I think. And I doubt they are particularly effective at awakening it, though they may provide the "permission slip" to fantasize, which might nurture it if one has already awakened it.

ETA: Anecdotally, I got both bullying and mobbing. Put a stop to the former. Curbed the latter.

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RE: What makes you a sadist? Nature or Nurture? - 10/16/2012 5:02:05 PM

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I would say I'm a sadist by nature. When I was growing up I was nurtured to be gentle and loving, to go the extra mile for others, blah blah blah, and that purposely hurting people was wrong. Well, I can still be gentle and loving and all that, but I also love hurting someone just for the reactions and the sounds he makes. lol I always have been sadistic, but I squelched it for so long. Now I stopped squelching it and I can really be me.

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RE: What makes you a sadist? Nature or Nurture? - 10/16/2012 11:40:15 PM

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I would say for Master and I, it's equally from both nature and nurture. He was been an adrenaline junkie, plus he is simply a dominant personality and sometimes he likes to hurt people. Most times it's me but other times I've seen him be a bit of a sadist with other people, especially the ones he does not like.

My submission is my personality and I was probably born with it. I was an extremely shy girl as a kid. And then it's nurture because I grew up very poor and I had a lot of hardships in life so it's nice to just let go with someone and not have to be stressing out constantly. I don't like conflict or chaos one tiny bit. Having Master around though means he's the one who is going to tell me to do. He is in charge and it just makes life simpler for me. Plus his sadism can remove tensions from me and it helps him with aggression sometimes lol.

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RE: What makes you a sadist? Nature or Nurture? - 10/19/2012 12:39:08 PM

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A good question LT...
As for myself? I have no clue why I am, nor why I can be masochistic...at times.
The sadism I had to embrace and become to understand its...ok. And it took a long, long time.
The biggest problem is finding someone to trust well enough to unleash it upon. Nothing worse than someone accusing me later of hurting her ~shrugs~
However that can lead to some serious issues.
I get tired of hearing subs, etc saying they really have trust issues etc...Well what about a Top/Dom/Master (I know labels ppffftttt) who is sadistic? YOU don`t think they have to trust someone deeply lest one calls foul play later...
Damned if I do...damned if I dont ~L~

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