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Abraxas -> I need an actual unbiased statement to answer this. (10/16/2012 1:39:11 AM)
So, I have been thinking about it a lot, and while I myself am against it, subjectively, in an objective perspective, I want to know how and why Financial Domination came about, when it started, how it is different from prostitution, if it is legally classified as such, and why some people are ok with it and others are not. Ignoring my opinion on the matter, I am curious to get inside the head of someone who practices this. Please, I want to learn.

LostCookies -> RE: I need an actual unbiased statement to answer this. (10/16/2012 2:10:35 AM)
There are so many posts about this already. Money = power, for someone to give their money away to someone else is giving up their power. Its not just about ropes and whips, there are other fetishes and as long as their between two consenting adults, then they are valid. What I don't understand is why there are so many people so vehemently against it. I see people complaining about FinDommes all the time. Most FinDommes are upfront with who they are. I don't see the issue, I don't understand why this topic is constantly up for debate to try and validate or debunk FinDommes. Also, the prostitute thing. First off, a lot of men call FinDommes prostitutes, prostitution is not an insulting job. Its a way people make a living, stop using it as some kind of insult. Second, people pay prostitutes and the prostitute does whatever the john paid for. FinDommes are given money because their sub/slave has decided that they want to make the FinDommes life easier, or to show their love, gratitude ect. The Findomme can return the favor with a photo of her feet or something but there is NO EXPECTATION of a returned favor. The FinDomme and sub/slave have made some kind of relationship or agreement, the FinDomme is above her sub/slave and he worships her by buying gifts and whatever other gifts/services she desires. It started a long time ago from what I gather and most of the older FinDommes started in Yahoo Groups.

DarkSteven -> RE: I need an actual unbiased statement to answer this. (10/16/2012 3:23:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Abraxas So, I have been thinking about it a lot, and while I myself am against it, subjectively, in an objective perspective, I want to know how and why Financial Domination came about, when it started, how it is different from prostitution, if it is legally classified as such, and why some people are ok with it and others are not. Ignoring my opinion on the matter, I am curious to get inside the head of someone who practices this. Please, I want to learn. 1. How it came about. Some people had money and wanted to be Dommed, some wanted money and were able to Domme. 2. When it started. No idea. Why is that relevant? 3. How is it different from prostitution. Prostitution is the exchange of money for sex, and pro Domming is the exchange of Domming for money. Some localities consider it to be prostitution and some don't. Regardless of the laws on the books, if the local cops consider it illegal, a pro Domme will have a helluva time operating. 4. If it is legally classified as such. As I wrote above, it is not by national or state law, but some jurisdictions interpret it differently, and some cops enforce it differently. 5. Why some are okay with it and some are not. Because people are different and hold different views.

Rochsub2009 -> RE: I need an actual unbiased statement to answer this. (10/16/2012 5:19:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Abraxas I want to know how and why Financial Domination came about, when it started, how it is different from prostitution, if it is legally classified as such, and why some people are ok with it and others are not. Why does this same stupid question come up every single week around here? And why don't people use the search function before posting the same question that's already been asked 10,000 times? In a lifestyle where people cut one another, piss on one another, tie one another up, eat other people's shit, set one another on fire, kick people in the balls, enact rape scenes, force men to suck other men's cocks, and find incredibly inventive ways to humiliate one another, why is financial domination seen as an abomination by so many? Frankly, it's rather tame relative to some of the other things that I mentioned.

crazyml -> RE: I need an actual unbiased statement to answer this. (10/16/2012 5:25:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Abraxas So, I have been thinking about it a lot, and while I myself am against it, subjectively, in an objective perspective, I want to know how and why Financial Domination came about, when it started, how it is different from prostitution, if it is legally classified as such, and why some people are ok with it and others are not. Ignoring my opinion on the matter, I am curious to get inside the head of someone who practices this. Please, I want to learn. So you've been thinking about this a lot eh? Well given that I barely spend a second pondering these questions, you're probably far better positioned than I am to provide an answer. Would you please consider having a pop at the questions you've posed? For me... Ok... do you mean "Pro-Domming" or "Financial-Domming" - the two are different. One relates to the provision of Domming services in exchange for a fee, the other relates to a specific kink in which the sub gives up some or all control over his/her finances. Assuming you meant Pro-Domming here's my take... how and why it came about.... Well, Probably way back when, this stoneage man (let's call him Ugg) found that being spanked gave him a hard-on. For whatever the reason (shyness, not wanting everyone to know, or perhaps he was just butt ugly) he couldn't get a gal to spank him, but he heard that there was this woman in the next village who, in exchange for a couple of tiger pelts would happily thrash his stone-age behind. And hey-presto! That's how it all started.... Now, I'm not being snarky at all... I believe that shit I've just written. I think it's been around for fucking ever in one form or another. How is it different from prostitution? Well, bear in mind that there are more than a few out and out prostitutes who bill themselves as pro-dommes, or who will add a bit of domination to the sexual services that they provide. But they're not pro-dommes, they're prostitutes that do a little domming on the side. A pro-domme is selling domination, not sex. Is it legally classified as such? It depends on the activities that are involved. Making a man wear panties isn't likely to be classified as prostitution, making him cum in those panties may very well. I think there'll be plenty of cases where a court could be persuaded that the services provided by a specific pro-domme amounted to prostitution. Why are some people ok with it and some not? Some believe that it's immoral. Some believe that it is essentially the same as prostitution. Some hate it because they're drawn to it and can't help themselves, others dislike it because they've discovered that (for whatever reason) it's the only way they can get a woman to dominate them. Personally... I've no objection to it at all in principle. It's not for me. Firstly I'm dominant, but while I've no objection to pro-subs, that's not my cuppa tea either. [ED for typo and to add..] Btw... I've no in principle objection to either prostitution or pro-domming - provided that in both cases there is no coercion (either physical, emotional or situational) involved.

AllisonWilder -> RE: I need an actual unbiased statement to answer this. (10/16/2012 7:05:24 AM)
Financial Domination and Pro-Domming are two entirely different things, the only thing that's similar is that there is some exchange of money. I am a FinDomme. I'm reluctant to even type these words on the message board side of CM considering the last time came with considerable backlash both in the forums and in messages. I will say this about it though. Bratty Princesses are not FinDommes, they are exactly what they say they are and that is a Bratty Princess who demands things of Her pigs/subs/slaves and gets them.

crazyml -> RE: I need an actual unbiased statement to answer this. (10/16/2012 7:27:01 AM)
Yes, indeed.

Rochsub2009 -> RE: I need an actual unbiased statement to answer this. (10/16/2012 10:27:11 AM)
Read this thread and all will be revealed. Financial Domination 101 I hope that helped. -Roch

LookieNoNookie -> RE: I need an actual unbiased statement to answer this. (10/16/2012 4:43:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Abraxas So, I have been thinking about it a lot, and while I myself am against it, subjectively, in an objective perspective, I want to know how and why Financial Domination came about, when it started, how it is different from prostitution, if it is legally classified as such, and why some people are ok with it and others are not. Ignoring my opinion on the matter, I am curious to get inside the head of someone who practices this. Please, I want to learn. Absolutely excellent question. It originated in the 17th century (almost the 18th by way of docs I've reviewed). A woman named "Iwannatakeyermoney (at) oldeuropegatorfilledmoat.com" (quite a few things were done by wicker back then) was the first (from Italy), she later bore 11 children, two of her great great grandchildren emigrated to the United states in 1863, who through varying (additional) generations bore Al Gore (and a few miss-marriages, ergo last name changes), who as most now know, invented the internet. And there it began. I'm here 9 - 5, Pacific.

stellauk -> RE: I need an actual unbiased statement to answer this. (10/17/2012 10:08:18 AM)
It actually started in 1975 in Britain when a female tax inspector discovered BDSM.

TrueSlaveGirlFor -> RE: I need an actual unbiased statement to answer this. (10/18/2012 8:19:34 PM)
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RumpusParable -> RE: I need an actual unbiased statement to answer this. (10/18/2012 8:22:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009 quote: ORIGINAL: Abraxas I want to know how and why Financial Domination came about, when it started, how it is different from prostitution, if it is legally classified as such, and why some people are ok with it and others are not. Why does this same stupid question come up every single week around here? And why don't people use the search function before posting the same question that's already been asked 10,000 times? In a lifestyle where people cut one another, piss on one another, tie one another up, eat other people's shit, set one another on fire, kick people in the balls, enact rape scenes, force men to suck other men's cocks, and find incredibly inventive ways to humiliate one another, why is financial domination seen as an abomination by so many? Frankly, it's rather tame relative to some of the other things that I mentioned. Fer serious. Pour menstrual blood all over a partner and have them eat some of it and people just say "not for me", receive a $30 Amazon Gift Card and suddenly all hell breaks loose.

Rochsub2009 -> RE: I need an actual unbiased statement to answer this. (10/19/2012 12:30:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RumpusParable Pour menstrual blood all over a partner and have them eat some of it and people just say "not for me", receive a $30 Amazon Gift Card and suddenly all hell breaks loose. I know. I just don't get it. But I'll continue to be the champion of all the financial Dommes out there. I'm chivalrous like that. [;)]

AllisonWilder -> RE: I need an actual unbiased statement to answer this. (10/19/2012 1:35:35 PM)
Financial Dommes get a bad reputation because of the scammers. If financial domination isn't your thing, go find something that IS of interest to you. If you're really just interested in financial domination and what it all means or is all about, then message someone who seems genuine and ask some questions. I think you'd be surprised that not all Financial Dommes are just out for the money and that not all findommes are scammers. For goodness sake, if it's not hurting anyone just leave it alone already. This is ridiculous. Don't EVER send money or tribute to someone demanding that you do so before a cam verification or speaking to them for a little while. Get a feel for them, talk to them, let them know you're serious but don't want to be scammed. The good ones will put you at ease because there ARE good ones out there.

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