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Gary Mckinnon and extradition in general. - 10/16/2012 4:50:32 AM

Politesub53

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Breaking news in the UK. The Home Secretary has just announced Gary McKinnon wont be extradited to the US to face trial, on the grounds of human rights.

This is due to his well known health problems, including Aspergers. he may still face charges for computer hacking in the UK though.

There is also due to be a review of all UK extradition laws, to ensure both fairness and to stop cases like the recently deported terror suspects from dragging on for so many years.

Both moves will be very welcomed by the general public in the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19957138

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RE: Gary Mckinnon and extradition in general. - 10/16/2012 5:32:59 AM

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This is welcome news indeed! I'm also pleased to hear that the UK is going to review its one-sided extradition arrangements with the USA. It is a mockery of justice to use laws designed for use against terrorism and terrorists against an innocent (non-malicious) computer hacker working alone.

While health factors have been central in this particular case, it is sad that the UK is hiding behind such extraneous factors to refuse the extradition. A more robust defence of McKinnon's human and legal rights as a citizen of the UK would have been appropriate.

Hopefully the forthcoming review will restore UK citizen's rights to freedom from American paranoia and harassment from US Govt agencies whose time would be far better spent doing the job they are supposed to do - fighting terrorism.

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RE: Gary Mckinnon and extradition in general. - 10/16/2012 7:30:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
A more robust defence of McKinnon's human and legal rights as a citizen of the UK would have been appropriate.

Or even as a citizen of the EEC, which has more stringent human rights laws than the domestic ones we still retain.

It'll be nice to see Blair's bullshit one sided extradition deal done away with, even if it is down to Cameron having teh sulk because the Kenyan doesn't seem to take him seriously, though.

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RE: Gary Mckinnon and extradition in general. - 10/16/2012 4:00:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

This is welcome news indeed! I'm also pleased to hear that the UK is going to review its one-sided extradition arrangements with the USA. It is a mockery of justice to use laws designed for use against terrorism and terrorists against an innocent (non-malicious) computer hacker working alone.

While health factors have been central in this particular case, it is sad that the UK is hiding behind such extraneous factors to refuse the extradition. A more robust defence of McKinnon's human and legal rights as a citizen of the UK would have been appropriate.

Hopefully the forthcoming review will restore UK citizen's rights to freedom from American paranoia and harassment from US Govt agencies whose time would be far better spent doing the job they are supposed to do - fighting terrorism.

I have bolded the pertinent part Tweaks.

The health factor isnt just central, it is over-riding. If he had been well, I have no doubt, under current UK law and extradition treaties with the US, McKinnon, would without doubt have been extradited. There are no human right grounds he could have used, other than health. Facts are he did know what he was doing, and he did indeed hack into US computers. So legally, and under current human rights laws, he was treated fairly.

Re the overhaul..... I think the issue is as much how the EU court interferes with the UK justice system that is the major thorn in the side.

Admittedly the one sided agreement with the US is another, I have stated previously thats due to our legal boffins not getting things right.

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