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ORIGINAL: epiphiny43

And if that neglect of 'detail' (Arithmetic!) gets around and the last release of policy rethink doesn't convince enough swing state voters, there are 3 more policy changes in the pipeline now. They'll be run out till the survey numbers are acceptable. Gotta love integrity!

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ORIGINAL: stef

Finally, all the questions will be answered.

http://www.romneytaxplan.com/

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie
Now, it's more than factual that the wealthy have been paying a substantially larger amount of the total share every year since Reagan

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: stef

Finally, all the questions will be answered.

http://www.romneytaxplan.com/

Cute.

Here's the facts.

You can't know the facts until you're privy to them.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie
Now, it's more than factual that the wealthy have been paying a substantially larger amount of the total share every year since Reagan

"More than factual" is in this case some strange euphemism for "a complete lie"?

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

So you've got nothing and can't demonstrate that Reagan didn't usher in the noble Republican of tactic of shilling for donations from the plutocracy by dropping their tax rate, then.
Thought so.

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ORIGINAL: epiphiny43

IF they have been paying more, it's due to the massive concentration of wealth currently in the US. Which is now a more top loaded ownership nation than many South American countries, something inconceivable till the Bush years. What isn't true is that the wealthy are paying anything close to the Percentage of income the middle class is. Particularly that vital entrepreneurial/professional class who are getting hammered by the 'minimum tax' that keeps having it's lower edge moved down as a hidden tax Congress prefers to actually telling people it's affecting. These are the real water carriers and precisely those worst affected by the proposals those complaining about general tax rates are actually targeting. It only takes a few super rich to pay nothing to throw a massive load to those lower on the food chain who have little influence over policy as their campaign contributions can be obtained by smoke and mirrors. The really rich have accountants to tell them who their bread is buttered by. I see the coming debate a test of Obama's ability to make this obvious to the targets of the actual policies the Republicans are pushing. No defense cuts and no new taxes on the 'rain makers' leaves One tax payer of any capability, the middle and upper middle class. Or, printing lots of new money. Somehow it keeps being ignored that tax rates Were considerably higher (Particularly for the rich and those on investments subject to capital gains.) during all the prosperous periods since WWII, and we did well actually paying for the necessary government to run the country. The current system is very unbalance towards large interests and multi-nationals with small business carrying a disproportionate load. Car dealers and washerettes can't negotiate with local and state governments for tax breaks nor afford the accountants to play the national taxes to the limit. Lowering capital gains just means Wall Street gets rich off the backs of all the smaller producers who actually deliver added value or services, and are the employers of America.

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

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ORIGINAL: epiphiny43

IF they have been paying more, it's due to the massive concentration of wealth currently in the US. Which is now a more top loaded ownership nation than many South American countries, something inconceivable till the Bush years. What isn't true is that the wealthy are paying anything close to the Percentage of income the middle class is. Particularly that vital entrepreneurial/professional class who are getting hammered by the 'minimum tax' that keeps having it's lower edge moved down as a hidden tax Congress prefers to actually telling people it's affecting. These are the real water carriers and precisely those worst affected by the proposals those complaining about general tax rates are actually targeting. It only takes a few super rich to pay nothing to throw a massive load to those lower on the food chain who have little influence over policy as their campaign contributions can be obtained by smoke and mirrors. The really rich have accountants to tell them who their bread is buttered by. I see the coming debate a test of Obama's ability to make this obvious to the targets of the actual policies the Republicans are pushing. No defense cuts and no new taxes on the 'rain makers' leaves One tax payer of any capability, the middle and upper middle class. Or, printing lots of new money. Somehow it keeps being ignored that tax rates Were considerably higher (Particularly for the rich and those on investments subject to capital gains.) during all the prosperous periods since WWII, and we did well actually paying for the necessary government to run the country. The current system is very unbalance towards large interests and multi-nationals with small business carrying a disproportionate load. Car dealers and washerettes can't negotiate with local and state governments for tax breaks nor afford the accountants to play the national taxes to the limit. Lowering capital gains just means Wall Street gets rich off the backs of all the smaller producers who actually deliver added value or services, and are the employers of America.

Does it actually matter why the wealthy pay more?

It debates the issue that so many others claim herein that they don't.

It's fact...and yes you can look it up....honestly, it's not all that terribly complicated to do so.