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RE: What is a pack ? Protocols expections etc - 10/26/2012 1:09:13 PM

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I would say you're poaching someone elses kitty & she's going to be amused when the Dom in question has your ass for dinner!!
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We've seen the game before...if you've been warned in any form you're poaching (and you have) time to talk to this dom & find out what he thinks his relationship with her is!

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RE: What is a pack ? Protocols expections etc - 10/26/2012 1:13:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

if it's a general term, wouldn't it be quicker and faster to just look it up in the dictionary?

That's part of exactly what he is asking: is it a term with a general BDSM specific definition or not?

Even if it's a term with a general BDSM definition, the dictionary wouldn't be useful in most cases, because there are a lot of words, like "switch" for example, that have a fairly generally accepted BDSM definition that cannot be found in the dictionary.

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RE: What is a pack ? Protocols expections etc - 10/26/2012 6:33:13 PM

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Mirriam-Webster's Dictionary

Definition of SWITCH
1: a slender flexible whip, rod, or twig <a riding switch>
2: an act of switching: as
a : a blow with a switch
b : a shift from one to another

1. and 2b seems to do a nice job of defining it pretty well.

pack:

a group of people sharing a common interest and relating together socially.

again, seems to define pretty well to me.

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RE: What is a pack ? Protocols expections etc - 10/26/2012 6:37:23 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Mirriam-Webster's Dictionary

Definition of SWITCH
1: a slender flexible whip, rod, or twig <a riding switch>
2: an act of switching: as
a : a blow with a switch
b : a shift from one to another

1. and 2b seems to do a nice job of defining it pretty well.

Well great then. We'll make this the official post on the "ask a switch" forum whenever anybody comes in and asks what switches are, or what they do...

Cause with dictionaries around there is nothing else left to be said about the subject, and really no point in questions like that, or the discussions and understanding they lead to... right?

What a moron this guy is to dare to think that there may be more to be said about any single subject than it's cut and dry dictionary definition.

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RE: What is a pack ? Protocols expections etc - 10/26/2012 6:44:54 PM

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That would be great to me. It would save a lot of time. When there's a post about what is something to everyone, everyone pretty much responds the same way....do what you want. The label doesn't matter."

I find a lot of posts on here to be ridiculous but hey, I'm procrastinating something, bored, waiting for a call, can't sleep, etc... and the only reason I respond. Like now. I'm procrastinating working on my science paper.

But if they have already asked that person and the person told them what it means to them....what else do you need to know? Either you want that or you don't.

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RE: What is a pack ? Protocols expections etc - 10/26/2012 7:28:17 PM

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What else do you need to know? Nothing... at least not in relation to them.

But there is more to life than simple determining what does and does not apply to your personal relationship.

What else might you want to know? Well that would depend on how curious and inquisitive your nature is, how interesting the topic, how broad the range of the topic.

Look, I totally get that you're not the type of person to care much about the opinions of others than your Master. And I also get that you're not the type of person who doesn't like debate for debate's sake. And I also get that you're the type of person who tends to have a very structured view of what is worth your time and what's not... and all of that is fine.

What I don't get is this: why is it so hard for you to understand that other people may not think and feel the same way about these things as you do? Is it so hard to understand that other people MAY actually care about how people besides their partners vies concepts/subjects? Or that other people may enjoy debate for debate's sake from an intellectual masturbation perspective? Or that other people may not consider the search for ideas in certain topics you find worthwhile interesting and vice versa?

Is it really necessary to, every time a person asks about what other people think/feel in relationship to something they do with their partner to give the same conceding and dismissive question as a response "why do you even care what others think?" As if being interested in what somebody other than your partner thinks about something is actually a shameful and worthless pursuit by default. He cares because it interests him... as shown by the fact that he's taken the time to ask the question. Why on Earth would he need to justify why he cares to you, when it's clear that you yourself don't care at all?

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RE: What is a pack ? Protocols expections etc - 10/26/2012 8:22:54 PM

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Well, being this is an online chat system, I don't really care what people say or do and I write what's going on in my head. Do I accept or tolerate people even though I disagree with them. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I never claimed I don't judge people. I do and have no qualms with that. And I'm honest and when people start asking about stuff that could easily be found online or questioning what others think about their own relationship, it speaks tons about that person. And ya know, with all the newbies and 50 Shades thing making its rounds, I tend not to take newbies very seriously at all unless they return again and again and eventually becoming a regular here. Until that point, I assume they'll never come back anyway. The fantasies in their head just got ruined because they actually found out it's not as erotic as they thought it would be.

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RE: What is a pack ? Protocols expections etc - 10/26/2012 8:46:31 PM

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So you do know why people ask these types of questions. In fact, you see it as an indication that shows you something about the person.

So why pretend to be confused and ask them why they would ask questions like that, to which they could easily find the answers elsewhere?
You're doing the same thing... asking a question you have already found the answer and your conclusion to.

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RE: What is a pack ? Protocols expections etc - 10/26/2012 10:35:13 PM

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OK got to jump in here as a Newbie and have my say. I am not a newbie to this lifestyle but to CM i would be considered a newbie here. A friend of mine told me about this place and that i should join as it would be another source of information- gasp- for me to expand even my knowledge. After all we never stop learning new things. I have run into some of the 50 shades of Grey Newbies and yes had my fair share of chuckles and then patiently explained what i know and shared information as to where to go and learn more. Now to my view of what is a pack: i personally have owned pure wolfs and wolf dogs and the packs dynamic's are as an extended family with an Alpha pair as lead and everyone else as Submissives to the Alpha pair going down from the cubs to aunts and uncles. Some do brake away and form their own packs if they can not submit to the alpha pair or are killed by the pack. Now taking this into view and the younger generations that think older definitions are not cool and decided to use the word pack instead of poly you might see similarity's where there might be 2 Dom's or a Domme working together and the rest as their Submissives or they can just be calling their group of friends a pack that chat online. for understanding of her packs dynamic's both need to address the Alphas of that pack. But learning new terms and ideas should never be discouraged as we deal with younger people coming into the kink and wanting to learn more. i for one intent to keep on learning even after i eventually find my new Dom and hope that he not only supports it and encourages it but also will engage me in discussions that will heighten my understanding as well as keep us both mentally stimulated as well.

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