DesideriScuri -> RE: Magical thinking (10/25/2012 10:00:52 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Fellow Pandering to Spanish-speaking voter is not a bad idea though. That all depends on how you define a "bad idea." I think pandering to any single group is wrong. I abhor it when it's announced that "Candidate X, from the Y Party is going after the Z Vote." You seem to be saying that candidates should tell all minorities to go fuck themselves. If tht is so how then does one build a consensus? Actually, what I'm saying is that every Citizen should be treated as an American Citizen regardless of heritage, skin color, gender, gender role, etc. quote:
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The Presidency is a National position. It's a position over all the genders, ethnicities, races, etc. Pushing or touting any reforms that give one group "special status" over another is wrong. Why is it wrong to redress inequalities/ It's right to fix inequalities. If you can dole out consequences to those who have perpetrated the inequalities, then prosecute them for it. However, you might not be able to do that. For instance, punishing me for early American slavery would be wrong since my lineage didn't get here until after slavery was abolished. quote:
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In the eyes of the Government DYB and I should be seen as American Citizens only. We should not be seen as a white guy and a black guy, a Caucasian and an African-American (I only use him because his profile pic shows a black guy, so I assume he's black; I don't have any clue regarding you). We should be treated as equals. Any casual observer of u.s. history would be aware that that has not historically been the case. Were you unaware of this? So, since it hasn't been the case, does that mean it shouldn't be? quote:
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If I donate to the winning candidate's coffers, I should get the same treatment as someone who donated to the losing candidate(s)'s coffer(s). When has this been the true? I'm willing to bet that it was true at some point, but would be considered incredibly rare today. But, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be true. If you want to rely on prior history or "traditional" events to determine best practices today, you've just killed the LBGT movement. You've given illegitimacy to the American Revolution. You've given legitimacy to the early American slave trade. You, then, support Sharia Law where Sharia has been the law.
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