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tweakabelle -> UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 6:27:50 PM)

In a surprising rebuff to US and Israeli warmongering, the usually servile UK Govt has refused to allow the US Air Force to re-fuel planes on a possible Iran strike to use UK facilities. Permission, usually granted on a routine basis, was refused because a pre-emptive strike against Iran would be a unequivocal breach of international law.

"[legal advice from the UK Attorney-general] states that providing assistance to forces that could be involved in a pre-emptive strike would be a clear breach of international law on the basis that Iran, which has consistently denied it has plans to develop a nuclear weapon, does not currently represent "a clear and present threat".

"The UK would be in breach of international law if it facilitated what amounted to a pre-emptive strike on Iran," said a senior Whitehall source. "It is explicit. The government has been using this to push back against the Americans."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/26/iran-military-action-downing-street

So much for the "existential" threat against Netanyahoo continually alleges. This rebuff, from the US's primary ally and loyal partner in its current Middle Eastern military adventures, serves as another indicator of how increasingly isolated Israel is internationally, the illegality of any pre-emptive strike on Iran, and how badly hawks in Israel the US have mis-judged the international community on this issue.

Should international law prevail on this issue?



subrob1967 -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 6:41:02 PM)

So the Brits are worried about their oil again... Didn't they make some back room deal with Saddam too? Fuck the UK



Aylee -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 7:47:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

So the Brits are worried about their oil again... Didn't they make some back room deal with Saddam too? Fuck the UK


I recall from my history classes another group, bent on world domination and destroying the Jews, that the British tried to appease.



ermood -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 8:09:54 PM)

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Didn't they make some back room deal with Saddam too?


Yes, and so did the US;)



ermood -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 8:11:56 PM)

Finally.... the UK has open its eyes;)



slvemike4u -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 8:25:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

So the Brits are worried about their oil again... Didn't they make some back room deal with Saddam too? Fuck the UK


I recall from my history classes another group, bent on world domination and destroying the Jews, that the British tried to appease.

Pray tell,who was this (I missed some of my history classes,sickly child and all )?



TheHeretic -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 8:29:32 PM)

I believe she's referring to the Nazi's, Mike. Google "Chamberlain," for a refresher.



Aylee -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 8:36:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

I believe she's referring to the Nazi's, Mike. Google "Chamberlain," for a refresher.


Neville Chamberlain, Winston Churchill, and Field Marshal Montgomery, all lived with the ghosts of the Somme. Binyyameen Netanyahu, lives with the ghosts of Auschwitz.


"Peace in our time." (1938) Heh.



slvemike4u -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 8:40:38 PM)

Thanks guys,I don't know where I would be without you both [8|]



TheHeretic -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 8:46:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Thanks guys,I don't know where I would be without you both [8|]



In a much more soothing bubble, I'm sure, Mike. [;)]



slvemike4u -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 8:50:36 PM)

By the way,the analogy sucks,last I looked Iran was not gobbling up her neighbors,and no we are not anywhere near the point of no return.
Hell there are voices in Israel who are pleading for restraint,to let the sanctions do their work,it's only Netenayhu(sp?) and Romney who are beating the histrionic shrill call for immediate action



slvemike4u -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 8:52:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Thanks guys,I don't know where I would be without you both [8|]



In a much more soothing bubble, I'm sure, Mike. [;)]

Rich ,you really didn't buy that "aww shucks I could use some help act" did you ?



FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 8:52:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
Should international law prevail on this issue?


Yep... Iran should be strung up for threarening the nuclear proliferation treaty.

Bartender. Another scotch and Iranian heavy water please.

Bummer about the arms factory building rockets to use for peaceful negotiations with Israel, huh?
http://world.time.com/2012/10/25/did-israel-bomb-a-sudanese-ammunition-depot/

Hurry, someone call the police...
Anybody  know the number for 911?



TheHeretic -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 9:09:09 PM)

If you think I did, Mike, then my comment was too subtle. [;)]



slvemike4u -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 9:11:01 PM)

I'm tired,it's late on the east coast....so yeah you probably were too subtle....lol



TheHeretic -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 9:15:17 PM)

Well, I wouldn't want you to think I was being harsh...



kdsub -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 9:16:44 PM)

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Permission, usually granted on a routine basis, was refused


I was not refused because it was never asked tweak.

Butch



slvemike4u -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 9:21:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Well, I wouldn't want you to think I was being harsh...

Lol,I'm thinking that was a reference to another thread.....one in which you were being entirely too harsh.
I really see no reason to carry over yesterdays "battles" Rich,each day brings it's very own new set...so why bother [:D]



Aylee -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 9:29:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

By the way,the analogy sucks,last I looked Iran was not gobbling up her neighbors,and no we are not anywhere near the point of no return.
Hell there are voices in Israel who are pleading for restraint,to let the sanctions do their work,it's only Netenayhu(sp?) and Romney who are beating the histrionic shrill call for immediate action


Have you ever listened to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? "They gathered, organized and armed the dirties[sic], filthiest and most criminal so-called humans from different parts of the world more than 60 years ago under a false and void excuse and through making fake news and stories. They occupied the Palestinian territories and made the Palestinian nation homeless through their military and propaganda supports" Fars News Agency, Official Iranian Media Translation, unedited, June 16, 2010

So-called humans? Really now.

In a speech to the United Nations on 26 September 2012, which some media said was notable for having "none of the usual dishevelled extremism" or "sabre rattling" that he is known for, Ahmadinejad called for a new world order not dominated by Western powers and condemned the continual threats of military action against Iran by "uncivilized Zionists."

"Many who are disappointed in the struggle between the Islamic world and the infidels have tried to spread the blame. They say it is not possible to have a world without the United States and Zionism. But you know that this is a possible goal and slogan." New York Times, translation, October 30, 2005


Yep, he sure is a great guy!



slvemike4u -> RE: UK Govt: Iran strike "illegal" (10/27/2012 9:33:49 PM)

If you are going to take a clown like amindinnerjacket seriously there really isn't much I can do to help you.


But I like you so I will give you one hint....he isn't even the top guy there,he has no real power....he is the suit the mullahs run out to keep the masses fired up.He makes no decisions of any substance at all.



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