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ORIGINAL: Marini

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
So fucking what?  Maybe you don't need that furlined sink, or the portugese wine, and can live with a china sink and some mad dog 20/20.
So, we would know what it costs to produce some product.  Lets say an lcd tv, the chinese can do it for $200 less (fairly calculated), ok, tarriff it $150, and the cost of tarriffed overseas goods reflect that.
We lived on tarriffs and duties from the founding of this country till the income tax, and always had a surplus except in times of war.
Why would the cost of labor skyrocket anymore than the lack of competition would and has created predatory pricing practices as well as shoddy merchandise?

I still have yet to see how unbridled outsourcing has proved to be a "great thing" for the average American.
Most of the MILLIONS of jobs we lost, have never been replaced, and most will not be replaced.
Now we sit here and scratch our heads and try to figure out how to create jobs?

WTF?
From where I am sitting, this country was doing a hell of a lot better (pre-1980's} before all this unbridled outsourcing.
Often those that benefit the most from unbridled outsourcing are the soulless and greedy bastards at the top.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
so it is ok for them to do it, but you still wanna blame politicians for not fixing the unemployment rate...
gottit

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
oh please...the only factual part of that is "they take advantage"
Have a look at the daily lives of indians working for slave wages, that have been outsourced.
America is far from being a third world..If you were, the jobs would be here, so they could take advantage of EVERYONE, just to make their billions in profits.
The little guy gets shafted every time and then when he dares complain about not being able to afford rent/food/etc, hes told to suck it up and lose the microwave/cell phone/36 inch tv/ if you want to eat.
Politicians are involed sure
Exxon just gave 2.5 million dollars to Mitt Romneys PAC... but they are whinging cos they want tax breaks and de regulations, it aint for the customer, it aint for the workers.... its so they can fill their own pockets, and fuck who gets in the way of it.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
have you seen the reports on child labour in all kinds of places? and foxxconns dormitories ??? when jobs are lost in the US (...or canada or even the UK...) it puts AMERICAN WORKERS out of work and money saved only in the companies hands.... thats the bloody subject matter....
paying lip service to the greed by saying oh they are making their foreign employees rich is hugely sad.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
It reduces costs.
Of course, it also pumps money that would be going back into the economy as worker's wages (you know, that whole trickle down business?) if there was a domestic workforce out of the country into Chinese and Indian companies. Is that really worth dropping the price of electrical goods?

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
Think about it.
One of the right's big arguments to justify tax cuts is trickle down theory. If the workforce who are getting paid aren't in the country, then that money leaves the economy, rather than trickling down.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
Think about it.
One of the right's big arguments to justify tax cuts is trickle down theory. If the workforce who are getting paid aren't in the country, then that money leaves the economy, rather than trickling down.

Then when a foreign company invests in American factories, it's true, too, that money is going into our economy. But, one big argument from the left is that profits go home to the headquarters. If that's the case, then they are staying here.

Are you an "anti-globalist?"

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead
I'm antiglobalism that is only globalist when it suits a company based outside of my country, yes. Who isn't?

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I'm antiglobalism that is only globalist when it suits a company based outside of my country, yes. Who isn't?

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23 million unemployed ..

There is around 301 million people over the age of 18... per US census.

7.8% would be roughly 23 million. The problem with your figure is that it doesnt account for those who are of working age... but cant physically (or mentally) hold a job.

According to Gateway Pundit, when Obama took office there were 142,187,000 employed. Do you really want to go on record as saying over half the country was out of work when Obama took office? If so, 23 million now looks pretty damn good.

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What has obama done that was good then....enlighten me, I'd like to know

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so it is ok for them to do it, but you still wanna blame politicians for not fixing the unemployment rate...
gottit