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Lucylastic -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 8:58:07 AM)
Seeing as technology has been putting people out of work since the 80s, its a bit late to be whinging about it now

RacerJim -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 8:58:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subspaceseven Well lets take each point Online banking, I don't do it, I still write checks, I still go to my bank. Though My bank has now begun to charge for seeing a teller, I think you are confusing BIG BANKS making profits and getting rid of people to use machines. I'm not the one who is forcing ATM's on me, I'm not the one closing down teller windows and charging to see a teller, BIG BANKS are. And Gosh their profits are soaring... The postal workers...Hmmm you mean the bill written by Tom Delay (who got money from UPS and FedEX) and passed by the GOP making them be the only employer in the whole country who has to pay for medical, pension plans and the such 75 years in advance (equalling trillions of dollars) has nothing to do with the postal service have a cash flow problem?????? But back to the topic ...misinformation is OK with you then, as long as willard wins,, lie all you have to just win Back to the topic (misinformation) indeed ...misinformation and, moreover, lying, about what happened in Benghazi is OK with you then, as long as the usurper wins, lie all you have to just win indeed.

tj444 -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 8:58:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subspaceseven Well lets take each point Online banking, I don't do it, I still write checks, I still go to my bank. Though My bank has now begun to charge for seeing a teller, I think you are confusing BIG BANKS making profits and getting rid of people to use machines. I'm not the one who is forcing ATM's on me, I'm not the one closing down teller windows and charging to see a teller, BIG BANKS are. And Gosh their profits are soaring... The postal workers...Hmmm you mean the bill written by Tom Delay (who got money from UPS and FedEX) and passed by the GOP making them be the only employer in the whole country who has to pay for medical, pension plans and the such 75 years in advance (equalling trillions of dollars) has nothing to do with the postal service have a cash flow problem?????? But back to the topic ...misinformation is OK with you then, as long as willard wins,, lie all you have to just win Those were just a couple of examples.. you would have to actually read the articles to see how many jobs go the way of the dodo bird to see the extent of it.. and how its progressing into machines that can almost "think".. nice way to try and claim that misinformation is ok with me, i said no such thing.. show me where I said anything of the sort.. [8\|] I simply commented that people like you that bitch so much about jobs going offshore but I never see one of ya bitching about the use of technology which imo is a much bigger "threat" to jobs in the US.. You just wanna bitch about Romney & the Rs.. when Obama has been signing new free trade deals in his last 4 years and wants a free trade deal with China.. not a peep from the hypocrites about that... [8\|]

tj444 -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 9:06:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Seeing as technology has been putting people out of work since the 80s, its a bit late to be whinging about it now same thing with jobs going offshore.. most are long gone and not coming back.. the thing about technology is advancement progresses into the higher wage jobs now.. machines can fill your presciption faster, cheaper and more accurately than human Pharmasists can.. machines can now diagnose peoples illnesses better than Doctors can.. that will continue to move forward & up the income bracket..

subspaceseven -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 9:10:16 AM)
You'll find my response in the tread for benghazi Still where is your response about the THIS thread willard giving his staff misinformation for the election??????

Lucylastic -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 9:17:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Seeing as technology has been putting people out of work since the 80s, its a bit late to be whinging about it now same thing with jobs going offshore.. most are long gone and not coming back.. the thing about technology is advancement progresses into the higher wage jobs now.. machines can fill your presciption faster, cheaper and more accurately than human Pharmasists can.. machines can now diagnose peoples illnesses better than Doctors can.. that will continue to move forward & up the income bracket.. this is a well recognized phenomenon, nothing new... except, machines dont get paid slave wages. and this IS about false information...not greed, (except voting grabs) trade deals, and outsourcing.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 9:22:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subspaceseven You'll find my response in the tread for benghazi Still where is your response about the THIS thread willard giving his staff misinformation for the election?????? His favorite radio show hasn't come on yet to tell him what to say.

tj444 -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 9:30:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Seeing as technology has been putting people out of work since the 80s, its a bit late to be whinging about it now same thing with jobs going offshore.. most are long gone and not coming back.. the thing about technology is advancement progresses into the higher wage jobs now.. machines can fill your presciption faster, cheaper and more accurately than human Pharmasists can.. machines can now diagnose peoples illnesses better than Doctors can.. that will continue to move forward & up the income bracket.. this is a well recognized phenomenon, nothing new... except, machines dont get paid slave wages. and this IS about false information...not greed, (except voting grabs) trade deals, and outsourcing. It was the OP that went on about jobs offshoring, I simply responded to that part of his posts.. Both parties, imo, put out false info.. I find one of Obamas recent ads as having false claims, but that is my personal opinion on those claims.. and.. its politics.. what politician doesnt ever lie or put out false info?

Lucylastic -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 9:46:26 AM)
we have had more than a few agreements of offshoring AND trade deals, via US/Canada etc. Withthe bullshit and double down on the jeep iussue, AND the wisconsin bullshit, along with the other myriad of lies he has told just since he was nominated its fucking scary, I just hope the people who vote for him are the ones to suffer under him Unfortuately I dont think they will. The power of ignorance is stronger in the US than ever, and I actually do think he will win, just based on the past three months. he makes Bush look positively sane

subrob1967 -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 9:50:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Oh FFS Its not that freakin hard to find. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/10/30/1106961/romney-wisconsin-poll-watchers/ And before you dismiss the source out of hand, there is a link to the actual packet as well. Like you do with Fox links? Hypocrite

Hillwilliam -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 9:55:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Oh FFS Its not that freakin hard to find. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/10/30/1106961/romney-wisconsin-poll-watchers/ And before you dismiss the source out of hand, there is a link to the actual packet as well. Like you do with Fox links? Hypocrite Well, you wouldn't expect to find something critical of Romney on the "Fair and Balanced" station's website would you?

Moonhead -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 12:15:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RacerJim as long as the usurper wins, lie all you have to just win indeed. The usurper hasn't been able to stand since 2004.

subrob1967 -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 12:24:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Well, you wouldn't expect to find something critical of Romney on the "Fair and Balanced" station's website would you? You tell me, Big bad Bill

tj444 -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 12:30:50 PM)
Hmmm.. you really think Romney will win, huh? I dont but then I dont think either Obama or Romney is/will be a good Prez.. both are sell-outs to the 1%.. both are the 1%, after all.. I also think that Romney isnt the scary hardcore R people think he is, imo he is more middle of the road but has lied to the hardcore Rs by saying what the hardcore Rs wanna hear.. those are the real people he has lied to, imo.. Ds wont vote for him, imo.. neither will independents or the undecided.. jmo..

Hillwilliam -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 12:42:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Well, you wouldn't expect to find something critical of Romney on the "Fair and Balanced" station's website would you? You tell me, Big bad Bill From your link. "The group later tore apart one of Romney’s recent ads attacking China as one cause of our economic woes. They found it unlikely to “drive votes,” said it let Obama “off the hook”" They're attacking Romney for not being tough enough on Obama.[8\|]

subrob1967 -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 2:19:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Well, you wouldn't expect to find something critical of Romney on the "Fair and Balanced" station's website would you? You tell me, Big bad Bill From your link. "The group later tore apart one of Romney’s recent ads attacking China as one cause of our economic woes. They found it unlikely to “drive votes,” said it let Obama “off the hook”" They're attacking Romney for not being tough enough on Obama.[8\|] So that's not criticism in Billyland? You didn't say what kind of criticism was acceptable, you just claimed that Fox never criticized Romney. I can't help you don't see her hypocrisy by laughing off a Fox video in one thread, then defending a left biased source in another. Perhaps you need a better eye doctor.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/30/2012 2:48:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subspaceseven Well to stay on topic, willard should have honest info when training his people..Why don't you respond to the topic..or are you supporting the training of campaign workers to give out misleading and false information to voters I think you spelled out what was being put out incorrectly. I don't know your election laws, so I'm not going to jump in on that. quote: as to your response, how is it Obama's fault? True they are opening a factory in China, the government has no control over what a company chooses to do or where they open a factory, and the President can't really do much, that would be up to the GOP led house to start changing the laws for tax breaks to those companies. Why don't they If you'd like to show me where I blamed Obama for it, I'd love love love it. My comment was questioning it not costing Americans any jobs. Chrysler says it isn't, but I just can't see how it won't. Maybe we're not building and exporting Jeeps to China now. I suppose that could be, or that any Jeeps sold in China are made outside the US currently. Those locations would lose jobs, but if they're not American jobs now, off-shoring them to China won't impact American jobs. quote: And willard is the largest share holder in Bain captical, he can stop jobs from moving overseas today, in Freeport IL, but he refuses to address the issue, yet he has no problem profiting from it, while on the stump preaching he will do all he can to save American jobs, but refuses to step in and actually save an American his job Bain is moving to China Except that Bain Capital is supposed to make money. I'm going to go ahead and make an educated guess that Romney's goals will include improving the American labor situation by getting Government off (not completely) the backs of producers. If he does that, then he is definitely fighting for American jobs. Instituting new regulations, tariffs, etc. will only backfire on us.

subspaceseven -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/31/2012 4:33:56 AM)
quote: Except that Bain Capital is supposed to make money. I'm going to go ahead and make an educated guess that Romney's goals will include improving the American labor situation by getting Government off (not completely) the backs of producers. If he does that, then he is definitely fighting for American jobs. Instituting new regulations, tariffs, etc. will only backfire on us. How is he fighting for American jobs when he is profiting off them moving overseas????? You can't have it both ways. If your statement is to be believed, why does he not save the American Jobs in Freeport ILL.????Which if you look at reports Bain had planned on closing the plant this week, until willard got the GOP ticket....can't have it closing the week before an election. Now Bain is saying it will be closed sometime after the election.......

DesideriScuri -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/31/2012 6:10:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subspaceseven quote: Except that Bain Capital is supposed to make money. I'm going to go ahead and make an educated guess that Romney's goals will include improving the American labor situation by getting Government off (not completely) the backs of producers. If he does that, then he is definitely fighting for American jobs. Instituting new regulations, tariffs, etc. will only backfire on us. How is he fighting for American jobs when he is profiting off them moving overseas????? You can't have it both ways. If your statement is to be believed, why does he not save the American Jobs in Freeport ILL.????Which if you look at reports Bain had planned on closing the plant this week, until willard got the GOP ticket....can't have it closing the week before an election. Now Bain is saying it will be closed sometime after the election....... You simply don't get it at all. If outsourcing is going to save the business, isn't that a better option than simply closing? Fighting for American jobs isn't simply protecting every single American job. It's fighting for the business conditions to support businesses keeping and adding the jobs here. Bain Capital also profits when the business grows here, too. I think you keep skipping that part.

mnottertail -> RE: Willards campaign passes out false info (10/31/2012 6:12:02 AM)
You simply don't get it at all. If outsourcing is going to save the business, isn't that a better option than simply closing? What if the situation is not a matter of saving or not saving the business, and it is only done to increase profit and accelerate repayment to Bain?

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