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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/1/2012 5:19:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

In fairness, allow me to post Kens entire post:

"Best check with someone who knows these trusts. Romney got a tax deduction on all the initial principal and got to defer taxes on all the income, til for instance the cap gains rate got lowered about 10 years ago. But only 8% of that principal deposit will ever reach the charity. Congress stepped in and required these instruments to return at least 10% but grandfathered existing CRUT's. "

Now, I believe, since I have posted your entire post, with zero exclusions or deletions, allow me to state (again) that at no time in the ENTIRE history of this country, has Congress EVER mandated that a Trust or ANY investment in the entire United States of America "shall" (which is a legal word meaning "must") achieve ANY level of income/profit to be deemed a legal trust and therefore, not excluded from Trust status.

(I'm hoping that was and is now clear Ken).

You need to learn to fucking read english, and stop flooding forums as well.

What exactly does '10%' reference in my post? The only possible reference is to the preceding sentence where I state that Rmoney's tax shelter trust will return only 8% of the principal to the charity. Which is also clear if you had actually read the Bloomberg article and not simply started making shit up.

Now that you've made a thorough fool of yourself do you have a defence for Rmoney renting a charitable institution's tax status for his own profit or not?

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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/1/2012 5:56:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

In fairness, allow me to post Kens entire post:

"Best check with someone who knows these trusts. Romney got a tax deduction on all the initial principal and got to defer taxes on all the income, til for instance the cap gains rate got lowered about 10 years ago. But only 8% of that principal deposit will ever reach the charity. Congress stepped in and required these instruments to return at least 10% but grandfathered existing CRUT's. "

Now, I believe, since I have posted your entire post, with zero exclusions or deletions, allow me to state (again) that at no time in the ENTIRE history of this country, has Congress EVER mandated that a Trust or ANY investment in the entire United States of America "shall" (which is a legal word meaning "must") achieve ANY level of income/profit to be deemed a legal trust and therefore, not excluded from Trust status.

(I'm hoping that was and is now clear Ken).

You need to learn to fucking read english, and stop flooding forums as well.

What exactly does '10%' reference in my post? The only possible reference is to the preceding sentence where I state that Rmoney's tax shelter trust will return only 8% of the principal to the charity. Which is also clear if you had actually read the Bloomberg article and not simply started making shit up.

Now that you've made a thorough fool of yourself do you have a defence for Rmoney renting a charitable institution's tax status for his own profit or not?


I'm glad I made a fool of myself Ken.

The facts speak for themselves, even as you clearly can't.

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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/1/2012 5:59:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		This whole thing started when hairy reed said he heard from a friend who knew a guy who said Mitt hadn't paid taxes. Pure bullshit, which ought to be the democrat party motto (with a crying baby in the middle). The man has given more than and 100 democrats combined. Liberals think paying taxes is a charitable contribution. The stingiest people I've ever known. I give more at my college than any 20 of my colleagues. Gawd, it will be nice to flush these creeps out of the white house. finally. Hope and Change. America, what WERE you thinking?

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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/1/2012 6:05:11 PM   
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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/1/2012 6:05:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ElChupa

This whole thing started when hairy reed said he heard from a friend who knew a guy who said Mitt hadn't paid taxes. Pure bullshit, which ought to be the democrat party motto (with a crying baby in the middle). The man has given more than and 100 democrats combined. Liberals think paying taxes is a charitable contribution. The stingiest people I've ever known. I give more at my college than any 20 of my colleagues. Gawd, it will be nice to flush these creeps out of the white house. finally. Hope and Change. America, what WERE you thinking?

Wow. This actually does kind of relate to the thread topic. I do believe that's an ElChupa first!

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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/2/2012 5:26:13 AM   
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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/2/2012 10:19:46 AM   
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I wonder if Lichtenstein will be far enough for Captain Magicpants go to avoid paying taxes?

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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/2/2012 10:20:51 AM   
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Enjoy it while it lasts: I doubt he'll be able to manage that again.


Twice a day..........tick tock.

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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/2/2012 10:21:58 AM   
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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/2/2012 4:13:55 PM   
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Republicans putting quarters in the stall slots at the Minneapolis Airport Bathroom is not charity.


Now THAT was fucking funny!

(Don't forget Idaho).

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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/2/2012 4:15:50 PM   
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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/2/2012 5:59:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FMRFGOPGAL
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If it didn't go to the government for redistribution the people got fucked!
Or some silly shit like that.
6 days... Tick tock...

Cops = redistribution people


Not exactly accurate. Cops are paid for a service provided.


What service do the punk ass motherfuckers provide?

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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/2/2012 7:06:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: FMRFGOPGAL
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ORIGINAL: subrob1967
If it didn't go to the government for redistribution the people got fucked!
Or some silly shit like that.
6 days... Tick tock...

Cops = redistribution people


Not exactly accurate. Cops are paid for a service provided.


What service do the punk ass motherfuckers provide?



Well, I'm not entirely, fully informed on the subject (since I'm not a cop....I just happen to respect the fuck out of every damned one of them) I'm thinking the answer to your question would fall somewhere in the neighborhood of SAVING YOUR MOTHERFUCKING LIFE EVERY GAWDAMMNED DAY, WHEN FOR SIMILAR PAY AND WAAAAAAY THE FUCK LESS PERSONAL RISK TO THEIR OWN LIVES, THEY COULD BE INSTALLING CABLE TO YOUR PATHETIC HOME.

(But, I could be wrong)., although....since I haven't been yet, it's somewhat unlikely.

There's an old saying "You think the price of education is high? Try the cost of none" (or something similar).

Wanna see what it's like to live without cops?

Move to Stockton or Lodi California.

Then ask: What service do the punk ass motherfuckers provide?

By the way....if you do (move there, or try to live without cops)...buy a welding machine (and hire a few linebackers for roommates while you're at it).

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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/2/2012 10:22:17 PM   
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FR (and snark about thread title)
I wonder if Lichtenstein will be far enough for Captain Magicpants go to avoid paying taxes?


Well he could go that bit further to Monaco and join with the current Cabinet ministers in our own coalition Government.

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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/5/2012 4:33:43 AM   
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I'm glad I made a fool of myself Ken.


Your candor is commendable.

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RE: Just how far will Mitt go to avoid taxes? - 11/5/2012 4:45:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

Not exactly accurate. Cops are paid for a service provided.


What service do the punk ass motherfuckers provide?




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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookieWell, I'm not entirely, fully informed on the subject


That is obvious



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(since I'm not a cop....I just happen to respect the fuck out of every damned one of them)


Including mark furman who purjured himself in a capital murder case. How about rafael perez the cop dope dealer?
How about the whole lapd that was taken over by the u.s. doj for being a bunch of criminals?

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I'm thinking the answer to your question would fall somewhere in the neighborhood of SAVING YOUR MOTHERFUCKING LIFE EVERY GAWDAMMNED DAY, WHEN FOR SIMILAR PAY AND WAAAAAAY THE FUCK LESS PERSONAL RISK TO THEIR OWN LIVES, THEY COULD BE INSTALLING CABLE TO YOUR PATHETIC HOME.


The scotus has ruled that the cops have no obligation to protect anyone except those in custody against their will.

quote:

(But, I could be wrong)., although....since I haven't been yet, it's somewhat unlikely.


Wrong again as usual.



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