Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies

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cloudboy -> Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 5:05:42 PM)
From today's NYT: What Mr. Romney cannot admit is that all this (recovery of GM and Chrysler; saving 1.5M jobs) is a direct result of the government investment he would have rejected. It’s bad enough to be wrong on the policy. It takes an especially dishonest candidate to simply turn up the volume on a lie (President Obama sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China) and keep repeating it. By doing that in a flailing, last-minute grab for Ohio, Mr. Romney is providing a grim preview of what kind of president he would be.

mnottertail -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 5:07:13 PM)
Wasn't the UAW taking him to court for what amounted to touting a short on stock? Did that announcement hit the waves yet?

tazzygirl -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 5:08:06 PM)
RCP Average 10/22 - 10/31 -- -- 47.4 47.3 Obama +0.1

tazzygirl -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 5:14:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Wasn't the UAW taking him to court for what amounted to touting a short on stock? Did that announcement hit the waves yet? The United Auto Workers (UAW), the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), and other groups plan to file an ethics complaint against Mitt Romney for allegedly failing to disclose his profits from the auto bailout, the UAW has told The Huffington Post. The groups are calling for an investigation by the U.S. Office of Government Ethics to investigate Romney's alleged violation of the Ethics in Government Act, which requires presidential candidates to disclose their personal finances. The ethics complaint comes on the heels of an Oct. 17 article in The Nation, which alleged that Romney has hidden his personal gains of at least $15.3 million from the auto bailout. "He made his fortune off the misfortune of others," Bob King, president of the UAW, told The Huffington Post on Wednesday. "Why should we have to find out from the media about this?" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/01/mitt-romney-ethics-complaint-uaw-auto-bailout_n_2056941.html?utm_hp_ref=business

mnottertail -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 5:19:35 PM)
I love that fuckin Willard, hes all about the people. Now George Soros is shorting and badmouthing the government debt and ain't he the scourge of the entire fuckin right? Now this fucker, running for president on rightwing shit, is shorting the government debt and the people he is claiming to gonna create jobs for........and fuckin the rightwing is treating him like the second coming of St. Wrinklemeat. Does this indicate that they were against it before they were for it? Ethics violation? I would say in his position it is out and out illegal touting. The SEC should string his ass up.

absolutchocolat -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 6:10:05 PM)
wow, he really knows how to shoot himself in the foot. lose ohio, lose the election. isn't that how it usually goes?

mnottertail -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 6:15:36 PM)
Well, he is the antichrist of legend, drop those magic underpants and he has 666 tattooed on the ring around his asshole.

absolutchocolat -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 6:22:34 PM)
that is quite the visual.

mnottertail -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 6:23:32 PM)
I am sure he has been properly anally bleached.

Lucylastic -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 6:23:49 PM)
Im SO glad Im not the only one who got that visual !!!! i'll share my puke bag .....

ElChupa -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 6:24:25 PM)
The auto bailout was a HORRIBLE IDEA. They should have gone through bankruptcy. Now, the stinking deal o'dipwad worked out made the unions a ton of money. And we get stuck with the blow up as in explode chevy volt, a car overpriced that nobody wants. That's your government motors for you.

mnottertail -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 6:26:53 PM)
You missed a few facts and some other trivial stuff, Elchilechupa.

absolutchocolat -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 6:30:42 PM)
i was wondering when you were gonna chime in.

slvemike4u -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 7:21:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ElChupa The auto bailout was a HORRIBLE IDEA. They should have gone through bankruptcy. Now, the stinking deal o'dipwad worked out made the unions a ton of money. And we get stuck with the blow up as in explode chevy volt, a car overpriced that nobody wants. That's your government motors for you. Don't forget the real upside...Obama wins Ohio and you get to spend 4 more years screaming about feeding liberals to aligators or something ( or is that the other guy ?)

thishereboi -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 7:29:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Wasn't the UAW taking him to court for what amounted to touting a short on stock? Did that announcement hit the waves yet? The United Auto Workers (UAW), the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), and other groups plan to file an ethics complaint against Mitt Romney for allegedly failing to disclose his profits from the auto bailout, the UAW has told The Huffington Post. The groups are calling for an investigation by the U.S. Office of Government Ethics to investigate Romney's alleged violation of the Ethics in Government Act, which requires presidential candidates to disclose their personal finances. The ethics complaint comes on the heels of an Oct. 17 article in The Nation, which alleged that Romney has hidden his personal gains of at least $15.3 million from the auto bailout. "He made his fortune off the misfortune of others," Bob King, president of the UAW, told The Huffington Post on Wednesday. "Why should we have to find out from the media about this?" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/01/mitt-romney-ethics-complaint-uaw-auto-bailout_n_2056941.html?utm_hp_ref=business Wow I didn't realize the Uaw bated him that much. I may have to rethink my vote.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 8:06:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy From today's NYT: What Mr. Romney cannot admit is that all this (recovery of GM and Chrysler; saving 1.5M jobs) is a direct result of the government investment he would have rejected. It’s bad enough to be wrong on the policy. It takes an especially dishonest candidate to simply turn up the volume on a lie (President Obama sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China) and keep repeating it. By doing that in a flailing, last-minute grab for Ohio, Mr. Romney is providing a grim preview of what kind of president he would be. What part of that is wrong, other than that they are going to build Jeeps in China (which is only partially wrong)? Who owns Chrysler? Fiat owns majority stake in Chrysler. Chrysler was sold to the Italians. Are they going to be building Jeeps in China? Maybe. Maybe not. They are looking at building Jeeps in China (would actually be a resumption of building Jeeps in China), but those would be for that Market. And, they have done some research into building the breadth of their lines in China, too. They are not close to building the entirety of their line in China. The Jeep line is the only one they seem to be close on. And, what is really the part that Romney got wrong, they aren't moving all their production over there, just production for that market. Romney did, indeed, disagree with the auto-bailout, though he did not disagree with the Government having no part in saving Chrysler or GM.

subrob1967 -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 9:35:09 PM)
I love how the NYT is ignoring Obama stealing the Delphi pensions in Ohio and Michigan, yet want's to try and make an issue out of someone Ann Romney did business with 5 years ago... Typical progressive asshattery if you ask me. 4 days... Tick tock.

cloudboy -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/1/2012 10:03:30 PM)
Ann Romney was not mentioned. Not sure what you are talking about.

farglebargle -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/2/2012 3:29:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ElChupa The auto bailout was a HORRIBLE IDEA. They should have gone through bankruptcy. Now, the stinking deal o'dipwad worked out made the unions a ton of money. And we get stuck with the blow up as in explode chevy volt, a car overpriced that nobody wants. That's your government motors for you. By "nobody wants" you mean #1 Market Leader http://www.plugincars.com/chevy-volt-sales-set-record-october-2012-nissan-leaf-rises-occasion-125104.html

DomYngBlk -> RE: Auto Bailout -- NYT OP-ED about Romney Lies (11/2/2012 5:06:45 AM)
It is a complete falsehood. Every paper in the state has called it a lie. Does he have any other state Republicans backing his statement? No. Where is Kasich on this or Voinivich? You would think that if there was a shred of truth that they'd be all over the media talking about it....

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