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flyhumbleguy -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 2:47:50 PM)
Certainly I do recognize this and both parties would do better to opt out of either practice.

tazzygirl -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 2:49:35 PM)
Ah yes, lets let people AND corporations die. Makes perfect sense!

Yachtie -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 2:55:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Yachtie quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: flyhumbleguy Continued welfare state socialism agendas will push some tea partiers towards national socialism just as Communist Russia and economic collapse pushed a Weimar Germany into supporting Hitler. Ah, welfare state socialism. You do realize corporations get more in welfare that the citizens do, yes? If corporations got no welfare, and I agree they shouldn't, would that then make it ok for the other? Doesnt that fly into the face of the Republican mantra about letting businesses who cant succeed on their own to fail? If that's the R mantra, letting businesses who cant succeed on their own to fail, how is my agreeing with it flying in its face?

tazzygirl -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 3:04:08 PM)
quote: If that's the R mantra, letting businesses who cant succeed on their own to fail, how is my agreeing with it flying in its face? Ugh.... not you agreeing with it. Them saying it.

Aylee -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 3:07:07 PM)
Fast Reply Obama does not scare conservatives. He outrages them. $6 trillion in new debt Obamacare In both the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections, disabling the credit card verification system for its Web site donations Solyndra NextEra Ener1 Solar Trust Refusal to enforce federal immigration laws Unemployment at or above 8% for almost his entire term in office Fast & Furious Rev. Jeremiah Wright Increase in food stamps Militarily intervened in Libya in 2011 without the Congressional approval required by the War Powers Act — technically an impeachable offense. 1,200 waivers for Obamacare to politically connected donors Expanding the number of “czars” Bail out the private pension funds of autoworkers’ unions at GM & Chrysler. Ending the welfare-to-work requirements Doling out $800 billion in stimulus cash for “shovel-ready” jobs that didn’t exist Alienating and isolating Israel Apologizing to Islamists and terrorists for offending them. Credit downgrade Stopped American drilling in the Gulf of Mexico Allowing other nations to drill instead Proposed in 2008 to intentionally bankrupt the coal industry — and now lies to voters and workers in coal-producing regions about his true intent. Skyrocketing energy prices In a primary debate against Hillary Clinton in 2008, Obama said he would never force people to buy health insurance, since those without it couldn’t afford to buy it. Less than two years later, he rammed through Obamacare, which does indeed force people to buy health insurance. During the 2008 campaign, Obama repeatedly promised that if he was elected “No family making less than $250,000 will see any form of tax increase.” This promise was broken over and over again once he was elected. In 2010 stopped construction of a “virtual fence” on the border and re-routed money earmarked for border security to other projects. Cash for Clunkers Violated the U.S. Constitution by authorizing assassinations and drone strikes to kill American citizens abroad — without due process “More flexibility after the election” Van Jones Anita Dunn John Holdren Steven Chu Kevin Jennings Suing states voting to enforce the federal immigration laws Keystone Pipeline Described the United States as “arrogant” and “dismissive” Sued states over voter ID laws Eric Holder and the New Black Panthers Armenian Genocide “I will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.” Arab Spring Refused Iranian democracy uprising Bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia, the president of China, the Emperor of Japan, and President of Mexico, among others. NASA and “Muslim outreach” Used the IRS to harass conservative businesses $2 billion to Brazil to support their government-controlled oil-drilling Boeing Adopted a longstanding Socialist political slogan, “Forward!”, as his 2012 campaign motto Sent insulting form letters to the familes of dead SEALs. Neither disavowed nor distanced himself from anti-Romney campaign ads which threatened or implied violence against Republicans. Benghazi and heading to Vegas Andy Stern Hosted at the White House Islamist members of groups associated with Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, etc. Timothy Geithner “you didn’t build that” Returning a bust of Churchill and lying about it Canceled missile defense shield in Poland Established an extra-Constitutional top secret “kill list” of people (including Americans) he claims the right to kill on sight, and then bragged about it publicly. “[email protected]” “Attack Watch” “Truth Team” “The future must not belong to those who slander The Prophet of Islam” Repeatedly snubbed Benjamin Netanyahu On May 19, 2011, told Israel they must return to the 1967 borders as a pre-condition for continuing talks Rescinded the “Mexico City Policy” Attempted to force returning veterans to pay huge increases for their health coverage…as a way to generate more funding for his Obamacare provisions. In June of 2011, he anointed his own underage daughters as “senior staff members” so that their vacation to Africa would be paid for with taxpayer money. Played over 100 rounds of golf The pastor whom Obama selected to give the national benediction at his 2009 inauguration recently declared that “all white people are going to Hell.” Sided with Hugo Chavez and the Castro regime regarding the Honduran Constitutional Crisis of 2009 Chas Freeman LightSquared Fisker Automotive Gerald Walpin Making “recess appointments” when the Senate was not actually in recess Fort Hood deemed “workplace violence.” Falkland Islands The Simpson-Boyles commission Criticized the Supreme Court during a State of the Union address Air Force One to making an unnecessary very low flight over part of Manhattan and the Statue of Liberty Leaving out the words “by our Creator” in the famous passage “…are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights” Elena Kagan The 2009 National Christmas Tree in the White House ornaments depicting Chairman Mao, a drag queen, and a picture of Mount Rushmore that included Obama’s own head next to George Washington’s Compelled Catholic and other religious organizations to provide health plans with free contraception In the 1990s he was a leading member of the “New Party,” a socialist-aligned far-left radical group in Chicago Lied about his close associations with former Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers Gibson Guitars

tazzygirl -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 3:13:48 PM)
http://iranaware.com/2012/11/03/b4-u-vote-4-obama/ I like knowing where these types of lists come from.

dcnovice -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 3:24:59 PM)
quote: Criticized the Supreme Court during a State of the Union address Free speech doesn't extend to the SOTU? And what makes the court sacrosanct? quote: The 2009 National Christmas Tree in the White House ornaments depicting Chairman Mao, a drag queen, and a picture of Mount Rushmore that included Obama’s own head next to George Washington’s Oh my. Three-year-old Christmas ornaments? I'm sorry to be blunt, but that's just plain pathetic.

Edwynn -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 3:32:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: flyhumbleguy Doesn't Clinton tout his balanced budgets/surpluses as well as economic growth, much of it attributed to these very same compromises? Last I checked, growth and surpluses were desirable where as recessions and deficits not as much. You ARE kidding, right? "... much of (the budget surplus) attributed to these very same compromises"? I've yet to see any attribution, from either political party, or from any economic studies, of that budget surplus as being result of the nation having a few thousand more Molly Maids, commensurate with a few thousand young poor women yanked out of the community colleges where they had theretofore been learning new skills that would have better prepared them for the work force, thereby decreasing the odds of their need for government assistance in the future, and better positioning the US to compete with other countries. Nor could anyone else see how the 'compromise' (caving in) to the banking/financial interests that occurred with the Financial Services Modernization Act (Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act) and the Commodities Futures Modernization Act, occurring in 1999 and 2000, respectively, could have had anything to do with a budget surplus occurring 2-4 years earlier, though both Acts certainly have everything to do with the destruction of a great amount of the wealth of the nation occurring from 2007 to the present, and the yet unforeseen future, and much distress and turmoil to a large swath of the middle class, not to mention completely wiping out many of lower incomes. Oh yeah, and after the huge deficit incurred by the US' wars on countries-with-oil, we then turned the financial sector on our own citizens, and the f*ckwits who clamored for all that are now whining about the even further increased deficits due to their own actions. You force poor young women out of good training at the local community college, force them to be Molly Maids, and the the few who, by some miracle, happen to stumble upon a deal to get a house, then have it ripped away from them. This ain't "trickle down," folks, this is a full-on hosing. Yes, the poor are poor only because they are just lazy. Repeat that mantra, and sleep well.

cloudboy -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 3:45:59 PM)
One huge problem with the US is ignorance of alternatives. Very few American read and very few travel outside the USA. Its important that you keep making these observations of comparative government and politics. Conservatives in America are staunchly against the US government helping anyone, and they rail against that kind of spending, but they love and say not a peep about our $600B dollar defense budget. Why? That money doesn't go to helping anyone. As odd as it may seem, that's what they like about it. Even though this over spending hurts the US and its economy, its lack of favoritism (helping subsets of Americans) makes it an appealing allocation or resources to them.

Aylee -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 3:51:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl http://iranaware.com/2012/11/03/b4-u-vote-4-obama/ I like knowing where these types of lists come from. I got it from Zombie who asked for contributions. I got the link to Zombie from Prof. Reynolds. I think that the sight you linked, took it from him. I looked at the list and took some stuff out that I do not think is important and shortened lots of it. There was really no good way to link.

tazzygirl -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 4:02:08 PM)
They dont give him credit. You may want to contact him again about that. Having it posted on that site... hmmm.. doesnt look so good.

Edwynn -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 4:07:25 PM)
Thank you for leaving out the lies that you felt to be unimportant, leaving only those that you felt to be important Goebbels would be proud.

Aylee -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 4:20:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn Thank you for leaving out the lies that you felt to be unimportant, leaving only those that you felt to be important Goebbels would be proud. Are you suggesting that we do not have a debt or unemployment problem? That we did not have four Americans killed in Benghazi, including our ambassador, while help was denied? That guns were not sold to Mexican drug lords? That money was not given to a slew of companies that went bankrupt? That Boeing was not sued over trying to open a plant in a right to work state? That the Fort Hood Massacre was not downgraded to "work-place violence"?

lovmuffin -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 4:22:20 PM)
The list left out Sonia Sotomayer Good one Aylee

Yachtie -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 4:23:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: If that's the R mantra, letting businesses who cant succeed on their own to fail, how is my agreeing with it flying in its face? Ugh.... not you agreeing with it. Them saying it. Neo-Cons have forked tongues.

Aylee -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 5:43:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin The list left out Sonia Sotomayer Good one Aylee Whoopsie. I added Benghazi. Forgot to add her. Of course I am curious about the "lies" I am propagating. Perhaps I will be enlightened. He left his ambassador to die in Benghazi, and you want to vote for him? Umm. . . Why?

Aylee -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 5:54:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn Thank you for leaving out the lies that you felt to be unimportant, leaving only those that you felt to be important Goebbels would be proud. Godwin's Law: "the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress. "

Edwynn -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 5:59:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn Thank you for leaving out the lies that you felt to be unimportant, leaving only those that you felt to be important Goebbels would be proud. Are you suggesting that we do not have a debt or unemployment problem? That we did not have four Americans killed in Benghazi, including our ambassador, while help was denied? That guns were not sold to Mexican drug lords? That money was not given to a slew of companies that went bankrupt? That Boeing was not sued over trying to open a plant in a right to work state? That the Fort Hood Massacre was not downgraded to "work-place violence"? Are you suggesting that we did not have a serious debt and unemployment problem prior to this president coming to office? Are you suggesting that 300,000 civilians in the middle east, along with ~ 6,000 or so American soldiers were killed to please the oil companies, Haliburton, Bechtel Corporation, KBR, et al., prior to this administration? Are you suggesting that the US has not sold guns to any number of terrorists through the decades, as long as they were dictators, and so you're saying that this administration was the first to sell guns to drug lords? that the particular program in question was not already in place prior to the current administration? Are you not aware that a slew of money was thrown to Wall Street as direct result of the deregulation that the Republicans had been hammering away at for years? And that Romney voiced no objection to slewing all that money to Goldman Sachs and AIG, primary architects of the melt-down, while objecting mightily to some money, ( a far, far smaller slew than was thrown to Wall St.) to a company that actually produces something useful, and had nothing to do with the toxic asset dirty bombs that the bankers attacked us with? Given your prior two posts, there is another logical question to ask you, but TOS prevents it. PS Are you suggesting that I actually give a flying f*ck about what makes 'conservatives' mad? Get serious. Sooner the better.

lovmuffin -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 6:28:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee quote: ORIGINAL: lovmuffin The list left out Sonia Sotomayer Good one Aylee Whoopsie. I added Benghazi. Forgot to add her. Of course I am curious about the "lies" I am propagating. Perhaps I will be enlightened. He left his ambassador to die in Benghazi, and you want to vote for him? Umm. . . Why? Let me enlighten you then. Anything factual showing Obama in a less than possessive light is a lie. Oh yeah, You can add "Vote for revenge" to the list.

lovmuffin -> RE: Why Obama scares conservatives. (11/3/2012 6:31:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee He left his ambassador to die in Benghazi, and you want to vote for him? Umm. . . Why? I don't get it either.

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