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joether -> Return on Investment (ROI) (11/8/2012 12:35:33 PM)

I'm sure if your not aware of what an ROI is and isnt, you could look it up online (google/bing it).

While the two articles I am showing here come from msnbc.com, I would point out that the reason for both is the sheer mockery in the journalism towards the GOP and its allies. After so many years of attack ads, robocalls, catcalls, and insulting Democrats and the President himself, perhaps conservatives should Bitch at the ROI these 'fiscal conservatives' just costed them. A 1% ROI for a $103 million dollar 'investment' in American Crossroads (that would be Mr. Karl Rove's super PAC) should be an indicator of where NOT to invest one's money in the future. I have heard from so many conservatives in the past few months that we should go with a 'fiscal conservative' approach to handling the deficit and debt. Yet, the bottom line seems to me to remain the same: Spent High on the Hog and Blame it all on the Democrats!

The point here, is these folks bitch about a possible tax increase that amounts to about 1-7% of the total money they 'invested' into the American Crossroads. Even thought the tax increase would place the current budget (with some budget cuts) at a "zero'd out" level (no surplus nor a deficit). They would rather spend boat loads of money keeping the nation's financial status 'endangered' rather than do the mature and wise course(s) of dealing with the problem(s) directly. This is the REAL DEFINITION of 'fiscal conservative', conservatives. It has nothing to do with the propaganda FOX News and conservative talk radio shows have brainwashed you about for the last fifteen plus years.

The funny part will be that practically NONE of these conservatives will take the American Crossroads, or other 'conservative' organizeations, groups, super-PACs to task for their failed ROI's. When was the last time we heard of conservatives taking their duly-elected Republicans to task for NOT being accountible or responsible with power? Back in the 1980s?

The second issue is how one of those 'conservative organizations' mentioned above is trying to get back their failed 'ROI'. The National Rifle Association. The NRA's $11 million dollar investments didnt pan they out with one canidate that won office. These guys did WORST than American Crossroads, but were at least someone wise not to 'spend high on the hog'. They still blamed Democrats regardless.

So how is the NRA to get its money back? Using the FEAR Card! That's right, now that President Obama has a second term in office, already the NRA and its sub-groups are pressing upon 'the sky is falling' types that the assault weapons ban, the UN gun ban, and several horrible taxes are on their way to being put into law. And that those conservatives Americans, should stock up NOW for when the US Goverment turns into a tyrannical beast and enslaves the citizens of the nation. National and international gun makers are seeing an uptick in their stocks. Of course, this happened during each of the elections when the nation's economy was uncertain. But this plays directly on the fears that hold sway over conservatives. I'm sure the NRA will get its money back shortly. Why would conservatives EVER question how the NRA spends their money?





Yachtie -> RE: Return on Investment (ROI) (11/8/2012 3:11:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: joether
The funny part will be that practically NONE of these conservatives will take the American Crossroads, or other 'conservative' organizeations, groups, super-PACs to task for their failed ROI's. When was the last time we heard of conservatives taking their duly-elected Republicans to task for NOT being accountible or responsible with power? Back in the 1980s?


SOLYNDRA.




Aylee -> RE: Return on Investment (ROI) (11/8/2012 6:43:24 PM)

Actually Yachtie, I was thinking bunny inspectors. Just what is the ROI of them? Solyndra is good too. The difference is that supporting the NRA is voluntary. Supporting Solyndra and bunny inspectors is not.




SilverMark -> RE: Return on Investment (ROI) (11/8/2012 6:46:44 PM)

Not so sure I'd really want to be answering to Carl Rove's taskmasters....seems the 47% was a better bet than the billionaires!




joether -> RE: Return on Investment (ROI) (11/9/2012 1:27:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie
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ORIGINAL: joether
The funny part will be that practically NONE of these conservatives will take the American Crossroads, or other 'conservative' organizeations, groups, super-PACs to task for their failed ROI's. When was the last time we heard of conservatives taking their duly-elected Republicans to task for NOT being accountible or responsible with power? Back in the 1980s?

SOLYNDRA.


It'll come as a surprising shock, but many folks did get mad about how that company was created and died so quickly. The heart of the issue was, it was not the President's fault directly. You couldnt say that with former President George W. Bush's Iraq War or Mr. Romney lying 533 times in the 30 weeks leading up to the election. In both cases, conservatives didnt think anything wrong with running up the national credit card fighting in Iraq; or of someone wanting to be President, but couldnt be plainly honest and truthful to the American people....BEFORE...he was elected.




DarkSteven -> RE: Return on Investment (ROI) (11/9/2012 2:12:18 AM)

joether, you're thinking in a binary world. This is actually a world with probabilities and possibilities.

Nobody thought that the American Crossroads ads had a 100% shot of electing Romney. But the folks that bankrolled Crossroads stood to save a LOT of money if the Bush tax cuts stayed. The money they contributed was chump change to them.

Adelson's made a fortune off gambling. He just gambled again. This time he lost.




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