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Submotive -> RE: at His request (6/15/2006 10:28:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: spankmepink11

chercher...i might add one thing to my previous post. As effective as it is to remember the displeasure caused by failures, it's even more motivating for me to think of the times i've pleased my Partner, and  earned  His  look/signs  of approval. Sometimes the  anticipation of  a "good girl" is enough to light a fire.   (that...and recreational spanking...but thats another thread   [;)]  )


Yes, i do find that the happiness on His face - hearing Him say He is pleased with me - very memorable and very much seeking again and again and again and aga. . . . . okay - i think you got my point.  Oh yes those "fun spankings" mmmmmm.



irishbynature -> RE: at His request (6/16/2006 2:05:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: chercher

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ORIGINAL: irishbynature

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ORIGINAL: chercher

I have been punished with corner time and eye contact and speech restriction for a small amount of time.


Release yourself. If you aren't "up" to the lifestyle his way , then maybe it's you who isn't happy with the relationship?



Gee, thanks for the quick response. May I respectufully suggest you take a little more time pondering the question prior to shooting off a hostile answer?


I pondered the question and read the replies. Believe me, it was not intended to be a "hostile" answer. Everyone has their own rules. Everyone has their own limits in a relationship.

You had mentioned  that you'd done this before with him. So, questioned whether you were really happy with the relationship because you had upset him for the same reason (again).  And, possibly to ask you to reflect on why you continued to anger him. 

My personal opinion was to "Release Yourself"; However, that's simply an opinion because if I were told to sit in a corner, etc....for not doing chores...then post it on a message board, I would have been running out of the relationship, not walking. To me, submission is not an exercise in treating me like a child.

Best of luck to you.
Irish





puella -> RE: at His request (6/16/2006 11:42:22 AM)

Hmm... interesting 'punishment', and interesting ways it effected people to reply.

Personally... I thought it was pretty obvious from the first post that the master was making her put that up here for part of her punishment.

I don't know, but maybe cyber humiliation is some great teaching tool, but I would doubt it.  I find a lot more wrong with the idea of foisting something as personal and important as punishment off on a crowd of strangers who know nothing about the people or situation, than in a slave who carries out that order.

He undoubtedly read her post, and would know that there was really very little to be said in terms of offering help, except for the most general, without any kind of idea of what was going on... so I really doubt that was even something he sought with the girl's exercise.

I agree with juliaoceania... it is not our job to punish or teach your property.. and in something this vague there is no hope for anything more than a flame war for her here on the forums.

How that is pro-active mastery, I will never know.  If you can not control and teach your own girl to do and be what you want, I don't know why you would think others should.....




juliaoceania -> RE: at His request (6/16/2006 12:02:29 PM)

Puella, I agree.. and I also had a thought that was not rather nice... If I wanted to figure out punishments I would be a dominant... why is this dominant having me come up with punishments for his submissive? Why am I doing his work?...If I wanted to thnk up punishments for submissives I would get my own...smiles



irishbynature -> RE: at His request (6/16/2006 1:04:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: chercher

As with most things, the disappointment in His voice carries far more shame than the discipline.

I think the part about her feeling "Shame" concerns me. Would a Dominant want to continue to cause her to feel shame? Is shame and discipline one in the same? This confuses me greatly.



juliaoceania -> RE: at His request (6/16/2006 1:17:24 PM)

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As with most things, the disappointment in His voice carries far more shame than the discipline.

I think the part about her feeling "Shame" concerns me. Would a Dominant want to continue to cause her to feel shame? Is shame and discipline one in the same? This confuses me greatly.



I think most submissives greatly fear disappointing their dominant, maybe she feels shame over having done so? Not all shame and guilt are inherently bad. If we do something we feel shame over then we should not repeat it and rectify it.

I think I understand your point though Irish, if a submissive has a dominant that constantly shames instead of reinforcing positive behavior then it would puzzle me too. I think of discipline as a positive thing, I think of "punishment" as a negative thing.. both are employed to change unwanted behaviors into wanted ones. One is positive and the other is punitive.



littleone35 -> RE: at His request (6/16/2006 1:29:31 PM)

If you have done this before i don't understand why you would do it again.  i have not been displined much but the things i did that i have been displined for i will not do again.  I am just cuious is it that your Master is not giving you enough attenion so you get his attention by doing this?

Like others said remembering times i pleased him and he says you are my good girl is more than a strong enough reminder to me to keep pleasing him it is what i want anyway to make him happy and please him.

Matt's littleone



marieToo -> RE: at His request (6/16/2006 1:39:27 PM)

cherch:

I did not get the feeling that your Master was seeking strangers to come up with your punishment.  To me, that is a very far stretch from anything that you said in your post.  You said that you were directed to do this and ask others for advise on helping to remember in the future the tasks that you are assigned to do.  No where did you state that you were asking for punishment ideas because your Master couldnt come up with his own. Apparently his idea of punishing was to have you make the post.  I for one, am not about to judge that. Im sure he wouldnt be the first Master to consider a little bit of humiliation for a wrong-doing.  Either way, I wish you both the best of luck and I hope you do better in the future with your tasks.  [:)] 



Sab -> RE: at His request (6/16/2006 1:45:38 PM)

What were the tasks? 



marieToo -> RE: at His request (6/16/2006 4:22:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sab

What were the tasks? 


Sab:

Unless Im mistaken, the OP did not state the specific tasks, except to say it was a list of simple daily tasks that she was to complete. 



feastie -> RE: at His request (6/16/2006 5:32:19 PM)

*fast reply*

So, this is not the first time this person has somehow not obeyed.  She was punished with corner time, eye contact (I'm assuming lack of) and whatever else it was.  Plus she was made to make this post.  How her Master can say that it is not part of her punishment is beyond me, as it obviously is.  She also reports that her Master is not consistent in dealing with her transgressions. 

It would seem to me, although I am no supporter of punishment for adults, that the method of correction does not work for this particular submissive.  Also, correction is inconsistent.  Sometimes, her Master overlooks whatever her transgression may have been.

I think some thought and discussion need to occur between this pair.  Definite boundaries need to be drawn, discussed and agreed to.  The submissive should tell her Master what form of correction she feels would be most effective with her and her Master needs to learn to be consistent in application of whatever is decided between them.

Just MHO.



marieToo -> RE: at His request (6/16/2006 6:15:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: feastie

*fast reply*

So, this is not the first time this person has somehow not obeyed.  She was punished with corner time, eye contact (I'm assuming lack of) and whatever else it was.  Plus she was made to make this post.  How her Master can say that it is not part of her punishment is beyond me, as it obviously is.  Just MHO.


Actually in one of her posts (not the original though) I think she did say that her Master said this was *part* of the punishment.  But he did not say that he sent her here to get punishment suggestions from posters.  



littlepetkana -> RE: at His request (6/16/2006 6:26:18 PM)

First off: Yes, sometimes subs get off track and have days-or week periods where we're almost petulant little brats.... I may or may not have been doing this the last two weeks myself, and may or may not have punishment coming tonight for it. >.<

Secondly: My rule of thumb is, apologize, apologize, apologize, remind him why you want to be his submissive (show him what a good Master he is!) AND remind him why he took YOU on as his. Make it up to him.

Third: To do your tasks? Get a day planner, and report to him at the end of the day what you have and have not done. Knowing you must do this will get you ON THE BALL because the anticipation of what he will say is sometimes worse than what is actually going to come.



Lethexia -> RE: at His request (6/19/2006 7:39:18 AM)

I also feel this is part of the punishment, and will not take part  in it, however, I will state, people are not perfect, Dom or sub, if a Dom fails its fine and dandy but when a sub fails then others say maybe the next sub will be better? get a grip on life no one is perfect we all screw up even the all mighty Doms in this lifestyle, so before we judge anyone and make harsh statements, step back and becareful of casting that first stone

Leth



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