Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to Denote Dominant


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to Denote Dominant Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to Deno... - 11/12/2012 12:09:45 PM   
QueenRah


Posts: 380
Joined: 6/3/2005
Status: offline 		..."Dominant Woman," the title should read.

Fat-fingered the enter button!

Since I started moving about the online BDSM world, I have used the term "Domina," almost exclusively, to describe myself and other dominant ladies. While I am familiar with the etymology of the word, itself, I haven't been able to find any real indication of when it was first used in that manner, to that purpose.

It's no matter of great significance. But, I would be grateful for some proven citation of the history of the word's use. (For some reason, wikipedia, the be-all and end-all of things factual, hasn't been much help.)

Thanks!

QR

< Message edited by QueenRah -- 11/12/2012 12:12:13 PM >

_____________________________

Life's too short to drink cheap booze!
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/12/2012 12:18:30 PM   
Ninebelowzero


Posts: 3134
Joined: 8/5/2011
Status: offline 		It was in 1995. Decvember to be exact. My keyboard suddenly developed faults on the N &T hence domina.

_____________________________

More come backs than Frank Sinatra

(in reply to QueenRah)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/12/2012 12:19:22 PM   
ARIES83


Posts: 3648
Status: offline 		Domina & Dominus, were used in ancient Rome as
far as I know they are Latin.

Couldn't help you with the date but I'm guessing
atleast as far back as 400ad.

*I thought I'd add, I believe the use of them was by
someone of slave or lesser station in a similar way
as "Sir" "Mam", (As far as I know, I may be pulling
this stuff out of my ass)
I think modern day bdsm use may be traced back to
to begining of the use of "Dominatrix" perhaps
causing a researgence in the old term Domina.
So what... 1960-1980?
I'm pretty far out on a limb with that info, but I have
a good record of getting it close.
-Aries

< Message edited by ARIES83 -- 11/12/2012 12:27:48 PM >

_____________________________

530 DAYS

(in reply to QueenRah)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/12/2012 12:21:54 PM   
Moonhead


Posts: 16520
Joined: 9/21/2009
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: ARIES83

Domina & Dominus, were used in ancient Rome as
far as I know they are Latin.

Couldn't help you with the date but I'm guessing
atleast as far back as 400ad.

-Aries

So who in Ancient Rome was advertising (in Latin) because they wanted their thighboots licking, then?
(PVC is a more recent innovation...)

_____________________________

I like to think he was eaten by rats, in the dark, during a fog. It's what he would have wanted...
(Simon R Green on the late James Herbert)

(in reply to ARIES83)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/12/2012 6:53:05 PM   
LookieNoNookie


Posts: 12216
Joined: 8/9/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: QueenRah

..."Dominant Woman," the title should read.

Fat-fingered the enter button!

Since I started moving about the online BDSM world, I have used the term "Domina," almost exclusively, to describe myself and other dominant ladies. While I am familiar with the etymology of the word, itself, I haven't been able to find any real indication of when it was first used in that manner, to that purpose.

It's no matter of great significance. But, I would be grateful for some proven citation of the history of the word's use. (For some reason, wikipedia, the be-all and end-all of things factual, hasn't been much help.)

Thanks!

QR


The word "Domina" was first used in 1913, just months after the Federal Reserve was created.

It was in July.

(in reply to QueenRah)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/12/2012 7:45:36 PM   
MercTech


Posts: 3706
Joined: 7/4/2006
Status: offline 		And here I thought "domina" was the feminine form of "Dominus" which is latin for "Master" or "Owner"

(in reply to LookieNoNookie)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/12/2012 7:54:16 PM   
TheBoyDownBelow


Posts: 83
Joined: 7/25/2012
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: ARIES83

I think modern day bdsm use may be traced back to
to begining of the use of "Dominatrix" perhaps
causing a researgence in the old term Domina.
So what... 1960-1980?
I'm pretty far out on a limb with that info, but I have
a good record of getting it close.
-Aries


I never heard the term/title "Dominatrix" until I moved to the US. Where I grew up in Europe, the title "Domina" was exclusively used . But that may have been different from country to country. I assume that you are quite correct with your estimate. Although closer to the 1960's. "Domina" was used in the BDSM world of the 1970's.


< Message edited by TheBoyDownBelow -- 11/12/2012 8:39:17 PM >

(in reply to ARIES83)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/12/2012 7:57:57 PM   
pyschosubmission


Posts: 1109
Joined: 7/6/2012
From: Glasgow, Scotland
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech

And here I thought "domina" was the feminine form of "Dominus" which is latin for "Master" or "Owner"



I've always believed that facts get in the way of a good story (I believe Fox News has a similar mission statement) so I'm going to go with this being the origin.

_____________________________

Comedian, kinkster, all round malingerer

Lord Pish of Talkingshite
First Member-At-Large, ProSubs"R"Us

(in reply to MercTech)
Profile   Post #: 8
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/12/2012 8:08:19 PM   
littlewonder


Posts: 15659
Status: offline 		wiki:

Female form of Dominus (title)

A Domina—in old English Law—was a title formerly given to noble ladies who held a barony in their own right. At the University of Cambridge, the honorific 'Domina' (abbreviated as Dna) is given to women who hold a Bachelor of Arts degree, but not a Master's degree.

wiktionary:

The head of a nunnery.  [quotations ▲]

1796, Matthew Lewis, The Monk, Folio Society 1985, p. 29:

Each of the nuns was heard in her turn, while the others waited with the domina in the adjoining vestry.

From Latin domina (“mistress”).






< Message edited by littlewonder -- 11/12/2012 8:11:02 PM >

_____________________________

Nothing has changed
Everything has changed

(in reply to pyschosubmission)
Profile   Post #: 9
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/12/2012 8:22:46 PM   
ARIES83


Posts: 3648
Status: offline 		I found this...

quote:

The term "domme" is a coined pseudo-French female variation of the slang dom (short for dominant). It stems from the Latin words "dominus" = master, "domina" = mistress.


So in a sense, most of our D/s terms stem from
Ancient Rome and are still pretty similar in useage.

-Aries

< Message edited by ARIES83 -- 11/12/2012 8:44:54 PM >

_____________________________

530 DAYS

(in reply to littlewonder)
Profile   Post #: 10
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/12/2012 11:20:38 PM   
Ninebelowzero


Posts: 3134
Joined: 8/5/2011
Status: offline 		Bloody Romans!

_____________________________

More come backs than Frank Sinatra

(in reply to ARIES83)
Profile   Post #: 11
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/15/2012 4:54:03 AM   
QueenRah


Posts: 380
Joined: 6/3/2005
Status: offline 		Thanks, everybody, for your guesses. Yes, I knew about the Latinate roots; yes, I was aware of the term "Domina" to mean "Lady who owns her own barony, etc" (gotten from the world of wiki); but, I did not know about the European usage. So, thanks, TBDB, for getting me closer to 42.

So, for me, the world-stopping question becomes a little better answered. Thanks for the help and the "help." The entertainment factor was worth taking a stab at posting.

QueenRah, Domina to the D-list.

_____________________________

Life's too short to drink cheap booze!

(in reply to Ninebelowzero)
Profile   Post #: 12
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/16/2012 3:36:47 AM   
shallowdeep


Posts: 343
Joined: 9/1/2006
From: California
Status: offline 		It's far from a final word, but playing with Google's Ngram Viewer can be an entertaining way to investigate this sort of thing. I didn't dig much, but documented printed use with the BDSM context from at least 1976 came up quickly.

(in reply to QueenRah)
Profile   Post #: 13
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/16/2012 11:59:03 AM   
trelaford


Posts: 23
Joined: 10/31/2012
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech

And here I thought "domina" was the feminine form of "Dominus" which is latin for "Master" or "Owner"




It's much better than the term 'mistress,' which of course also denotes the sex object of a cheating husband.


A male pianist or painter of extraordinary skill and sensitivity would no doubt be called a 'master' - what is the feminine form in this case?


As I see it, 'master' is the best word, and should be a gender neutral term, both in the arts and in the world of BDSM.

(in reply to MercTech)
Profile   Post #: 14
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/20/2012 3:35:24 PM   
QueenRah


Posts: 380
Joined: 6/3/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: trelaford


It's much better than the term 'mistress,' which, of course, also denotes the sex object of a cheating husband.


Exactly why I detest the word.

quote:


As I see it, 'master' is the best word, and should be a gender neutral term, both in the arts and in the world of BDSM.




_____________________________

Life's too short to drink cheap booze!

(in reply to trelaford)
Profile   Post #: 15
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/20/2012 3:46:09 PM   
LookieNoNookie


Posts: 12216
Joined: 8/9/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: QueenRah

..."Dominant Woman," the title should read.

Fat-fingered the enter button!

Since I started moving about the online BDSM world, I have used the term "Domina," almost exclusively, to describe myself and other dominant ladies. While I am familiar with the etymology of the word, itself, I haven't been able to find any real indication of when it was first used in that manner, to that purpose.

It's no matter of great significance. But, I would be grateful for some proven citation of the history of the word's use. (For some reason, wikipedia, the be-all and end-all of things factual, hasn't been much help.)

Thanks!

QR


It was August 17th, 1973.

(in reply to QueenRah)
Profile   Post #: 16
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/20/2012 4:33:53 PM   
Aswad


Posts: 9374
Joined: 4/4/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech

And here I thought "domina" was the feminine form of "Dominus" which is latin for "Master" or "Owner"


Lord or lady of the house, essentially. Go from domus (house) to domī (at/in/of (the) house) to dominus and domina. Whence is derived dominātor (ruler, lord), whose feminine would have been dominātrix. Nothing about "owner" in there, it's just that a slave would've been expected to refer to its betters by the proper honorific. You can pretty much assume it was used by a significant number of people of inferior social station, as well, not just slaves.

Statistically speaking, I've got 44 slaves myself, about twice as many as a Roman landowner at the peak of slavery in Roma, and about six times as many as the normal periods. They don't live in my home, of course, but rather where my goods are produced around the world. Apart from that, it's mostly the same thing.

We've come a long way.

IWYW,
— Aswad.


_____________________________

"If God saw what any of us did that night, he didn't seem to mind.
From then on I knew: God doesn't make the world this way.
We do." -- Rorschack, Watchmen.


(in reply to MercTech)
Profile   Post #: 17
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/20/2012 4:40:05 PM   
thelonewolfrox


Posts: 5
Joined: 5/22/2012
Status: offline 		i believe it goes back as far as the ancient rome civilization master of the house wer called domina but thats not fact checked so dont hold me too it

(in reply to Aswad)
Profile   Post #: 18
RE: When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to ... - 11/20/2012 4:43:19 PM   
thelonewolfrox


Posts: 5
Joined: 5/22/2012
Status: offline 		and what I mean by fact checked is that I know it was used in ancient rome but do not know if that is the oldest example of its use in the context you are asking

(in reply to thelonewolfrox)
Profile   Post #: 19
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> When Was the Word "Domina" First Used to Denote Dominant Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.109