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Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some But No... - 11/12/2012 3:34:12 PM

stef

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John Scalzi has a message for you.

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/11/12/some-quick-and-final-post-election-notes-to-some-but-not-all-white-men/

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 3:39:42 PM

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If you’re going to “go Galt,” now really is an excellent time to do it. Please, go Galt! We want you to go Galt. It’s probably best for everyone if you do go Galt. I feel compelled to warn you, however, that as you don’t actually live in an Ayn Rand novel, your self-deportation to the Galt’s Gulch of your choice will not, in fact, collapse society into a wailing socialist pancake of misery. What will happen is that someone else in our nation of 300-some-odd million will slot into your position, albeit with probably less strident personal politics, and things will go on more or less as they did before. This is something Ayn Rand got wrong.

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 3:50:09 PM

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Not from Scalzi's article but wonderfully relevant is this quote from John Rogers:

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 4:25:00 PM

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My favorite responses to the article:

David says:

rainbow coalition of gays, women and minorities is not coming to your door to take your guns or your freedom

Yes, we are. But in return we will be giving you the briefing book on sharia law and how to follow it, and the booklet How To Be A Good Socialist Worker For The Benefit Of The Homeland.

Bob says:

98% of the people who threaten to go Galt would not be missed. In that regard, it’s the Objectivist version of the Rapture.

John Scalzi says:

“Objectivist Rapture” is the name of my next band.

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 4:28:28 PM

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or, like Bill O’Reilly, really believe that tens of millions of your fellow citizens voted for “things” and “stuff.”

Things and stuff like policies Bill ?

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 5:08:52 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

Not from Scalzi's article but wonderfully relevant is this quote from John Rogers:

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

I'd forgotten this favorite quote. Thanks, Stef!

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 5:12:30 PM

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quote:

If you’re going to “go Galt,” now really is an excellent time to do it.

As my beloved grandmother used to say, "When you're going, go."

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 5:25:58 PM

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Can we have a new rule here on CM that everyone who threatens to "go Galt" and fails to do so within a month of the threat gives $10 to all the posters who scoffed at their threat?

That's the only way I can think of that might make us take threats to "go Galt" seriously.

< Message edited by tweakabelle -- 11/12/2012 5:26:32 PM >

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 5:30:47 PM

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Only if we can include those threatening to move if *fill in the blank* is elected.

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 5:37:34 PM

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I'm fine with that LevelTx

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 5:49:03 PM

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Cool.

And just Level is fine.

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 5:53:39 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

John Scalzi has a message for you.

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/11/12/some-quick-and-final-post-election-notes-to-some-but-not-all-white-men/

Great article Stef......thanks.

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 6:36:04 PM

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Your Avatar is driving me to distraction...

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--Never heard that term before. Bill Maher refers to it as "the bubble."

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 6:56:10 PM

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I would say Im sorry... but Im not.

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 7:34:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

John Scalzi has a message for you.

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/11/12/some-quick-and-final-post-election-notes-to-some-but-not-all-white-men/

Yawn.

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 8:42:43 PM

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That response was expected ,as per the message

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 8:56:14 PM

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or, like Bill O’Reilly, really believe that tens of millions of your fellow citizens voted for “things” and “stuff.”

Things and stuff like policies Bill ?

Nope. The conservatives' latest explanation for their loss is that the liberal Dems have created an army of zombies dependent on welfare and entitlements (i.e., things and stuff) to never work again. They just can't deal with the fact that their platform is not winning, and in a democracy, that means being on the outs. Despite Trump's ranting about democracy being that Trump always gets his way.

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 9:34:48 PM

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Yupper.....

Wasn`t their fault.....they`re so scary neat-o awesome,it was everyone else`s failure.Wasn`t that Mitt wasn`t good enought for America.....It`s(after Mitt`s utter rejection)that America is not good enough for them....so fuck America.

It`s a little like the creepy guy, who after getting rejected by someone he really wanted bad,won`t man up and move on but instead tells people that it was SHE that was no-good and that he rejected her....for HER failings...

Only narcissists ,could twist things all around and come with labeling over half the nation as morally weak and lazy ,instead of looking inward. .

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/12/2012 10:09:13 PM

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A rainbow coalition of gays, women and minorities is not coming to your door to take your guns or your freedom.

It is not just "rainbow coalition": President Barack Obama was favored over multimillionaire businessman Mitt Romney in eight of the nation's 10 wealthiest counties.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-wins-8-10-wealthiest-154837437.html

Obama is a brand like Kardashians; Citizens of the United States of Entertainment favor brands. Stalin would have won landslide victory in Soviet Russia if they had US style elections.

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RE: Some Quick and Final Post-Election Notes to Some Bu... - 11/13/2012 12:21:00 AM

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The implication in your post is that the wealthiest are the most gullible to "branding politics," but further, that the wealthiest are the most easily sold on this particular brand.

Methinks this is not reality.

All politics in this country has become "branding politics," but people generally vote either for or against a proposed reality.

The GW brand sold well because the media really took to his "I got a twelve-pack in the fridge, you want one?" persona. Who cares what he was actually about to do.

Ever since Reagan, the media have been obsessed with the branding aspect, above all else, and all that follow are measured in relation the branding gold standard he set.

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