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twistedreality -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 12:52:35 PM)
Why is it if you don't agree with something, you're labeled as "phobic". It shows ones lack of intellect to do so and to resort to name calling. The seccesion thing is symbolic and a statement of the constitutionalists disagreement with the federal government exercising more power than it was granted. It is what it is.

mnottertail -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 12:53:19 PM)
L o L and you can quote me.

LaTigresse -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 12:54:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twistedreality Why is it if you don't agree with something, you're labeled as "phobic". It shows ones lack of intellect to do so and to resort to name calling. The seccesion thing is symbolic and a statement of the constitutionalists disagreement with the federal government exercising more power than it was granted. It is what it is. Ha ha haaaaa!!!!!! You signed one didn't you!

Lucylastic -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 12:55:24 PM)
snortsssss wildly... probably more than one

LaTigresse -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 12:56:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail L o L and you can quote me. Ya, me too. At least we know it isn't Rexella. That woman's been pulled so tight by the plastic surgeons I doubt she can bend her fingers to type.

tazzygirl -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 12:59:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twistedreality Why is it if you don't agree with something, you're labeled as "phobic". It shows ones lack of intellect to do so and to resort to name calling. The seccesion thing is symbolic and a statement of the constitutionalists disagreement with the federal government exercising more power than it was granted. It is what it is. But calling those who voted for Obama "maggots" is perfectly acceptable? And, honestly, dont run from your post. Its rather boring to have a hit and run poster who shows up later under another nic. If you are going to have the "balls" to post stupidity, be adult enough to return and stand by your posts instead of slinking off like a rat. (The you not being you, specifically, but to all those who post and run)

mnottertail -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 1:00:40 PM)
If only Tammy Fae had her surgeon.....ah but we can dream........

misanthropicdom -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 1:13:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls We have over $50 trillion in unfunded liabilities. You people are nutts. There's no possible way this strategy of making people dependent on the government is going to work. I predict it will collapse within 4 years & conservatives will come roaring back & make the necessary changes to get us back on the right track. I believe you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the strategy. The most prosperous time in the last century in the U.S. was when the government was hiring and helping, taxing the living piss out of the rich, banning off-shore accounts, and had a firm hand around the throat of the financial and manufacturing community. Everything we've done since then at the behest of the Republicans, and Republican-lite idiots like Clinton, have driven us to brink of third world status, increased the divide between the very rich and everybody else, and eviscerated the middle class. Fighting two wars with no tax increase to pay for them is utter insanity, but since the rich don't want it, that's what we've done, and that is the main reason we find ourselves where we are today, not "entitlements" or "government giveaways" or any of the other Right catchphrases. We have been driven to oligarchy status, where the wealthy control everything. Like Russia, China, and much of the middle east. But still, it's not enough for the Right. Their greed knows no bounds. They want more, more, and still more. They want to drive this country into the ground, every man for himself, screw the poor, the sick, the weak, the old, students, everyone who can't write them a big check. If anyone is interested in discussing a 30% reduction in the budgets of the military, the CIA, the NSA, the FBI as a start back to solvency, we have something to debate. Of course, that would make it difficult for the rich corporations (who, as people, need to be waterboarded) to use the American military to further their interests abroad. The revolution may well come, but the Right will be surprised at who is being revolted against. They had a preview last Tuesday.

mnottertail -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 1:51:05 PM)
I think better than 30% on the military. Since we spend more than the next 17 countries combined, if we were just a shade above the next big spender........

DesideriScuri -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 2:41:28 PM)
mnottertail, You have posed quite a few interesting questions. You have brought up many things that would need to be taken care of by a State if that State were to actually secede. All pretty accurate and spot on. Kudos. But, how did we do it in the 1770's?

mnottertail -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 2:44:07 PM)
The 1770s was a time of coming together and compromise. Oh, there were some hellova fights back then as well, but they perservered to build the country. Offhand, the whiskey rebellion. The signing of the constitution and ratification some twelve years later on the promise, even later of the bill of rights for states. Just a promise by men of good faith with men of good faith. And we tarriffed, and taxed only businesses and landholders. (the army coming from the people, that was mostly their tax).

thompsonx -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 3:46:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls We have over $50 trillion in unfunded liabilities. You people are nutts. There's no possible way this strategy of making people dependent on the government is going to work. Are you counting all of those parasites who work for boeing,northrop,macdonald dougles,and the rest of the war toy mfgs.? quote: I predict it will collapse within 4 years & conservatives will come roaring back & make the necessary changes to get us back on the right track. Will you be going "tick tock" also?

thompsonx -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 3:48:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twistedreality Why is it if you don't agree with something, you're labeled as "phobic". It shows ones lack of intellect to do so and to resort to name calling. The seccesion thing is symbolic and a statement of the constitutionalists disagreement with the federal government exercising more power than it was granted. It is what it is. Could you be a little more specific as to what the fed is doing to overstep the constitution? You do remember that the scotus has upheld the aca so that would ipso facto make it constitutional would'nt you say?

Yachtie -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 3:57:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail And we tarriffed, and taxed only businesses and landholders. (the army coming from the people, that was mostly their tax). Just have to twist it, don't you? What intellectual dishonesty. [:'(]

DesideriScuri -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 4:10:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail The 1770s was a time of coming together and compromise. Oh, there were some hellova fights back then as well, but they perservered to build the country. Offhand, the whiskey rebellion. The signing of the constitution and ratification some twelve years later on the promise, even later of the bill of rights for states. Just a promise by men of good faith with men of good faith. And we tarriffed, and taxed only businesses and landholders. (the army coming from the people, that was mostly their tax). Well, then, I think it's possible that Texas could very well do the same. I'm not saying it would be easy, or that it would be the same difficulty/ease level as it was back in the 1770's, but it is completely possible for a State to secede and take care of itself.

thompsonx -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 4:27:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail The 1770s was a time of coming together and compromise. Oh, there were some hellova fights back then as well, but they perservered to build the country. Offhand, the whiskey rebellion. The signing of the constitution and ratification some twelve years later on the promise, even later of the bill of rights for states. Just a promise by men of good faith with men of good faith. And we tarriffed, and taxed only businesses and landholders. (the army coming from the people, that was mostly their tax). Well, then, I think it's possible that Texas could very well do the same. I'm not saying it would be easy, or that it would be the same difficulty/ease level as it was back in the 1770's, but it is completely possible for a State to secede and take care of itself. Are you aware of how texas became part of the u.s.? If they were to leave what do you think those from whom it was taken at the point of a gun...read stolen...would do?

DomYngBlk -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 4:45:36 PM)
Which is a great point that they should take a hard look at.

thompsonx -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 5:00:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk Which is a great point that they should take a hard look at. Unlike the u.s. mexico has a national language. What do you think the national language of texas would be about four micro seconds after their succession from the u.s.? How would they get back into the u.s. without becoming illegal aliens? How would those non spanish speakers get mexican exit visas? The more I think about this the funnier it gets.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 6:13:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail The 1770s was a time of coming together and compromise. Oh, there were some hellova fights back then as well, but they perservered to build the country. Offhand, the whiskey rebellion. The signing of the constitution and ratification some twelve years later on the promise, even later of the bill of rights for states. Just a promise by men of good faith with men of good faith. And we tarriffed, and taxed only businesses and landholders. (the army coming from the people, that was mostly their tax). Well, then, I think it's possible that Texas could very well do the same. I'm not saying it would be easy, or that it would be the same difficulty/ease level as it was back in the 1770's, but it is completely possible for a State to secede and take care of itself. Are you aware of how texas became part of the u.s.? If they were to leave what do you think those from whom it was taken at the point of a gun...read stolen...would do? And, that's up to them to deal with.

dcnovice -> RE: Obamaphobe "secession" & "armed rebellion" movements (11/14/2012 6:23:41 PM)
quote: Why is it if you don't agree with something, you're labeled as "phobic". It shows ones lack of intellect to do so and to resort to name calling. According to dear old Merriam-Webster, the first definition for -phobic is "having an intolerance or aversion for <photophobic> <Anglophobic>." I'm guessing a fair number of these sudden secessionists have an aversion (to put it mildly) toward the President. quote: The seccesion thing is symbolic and a statement of the constitutionalists disagreement with the federal government exercising more power than it was granted. It is what it is. The role of the federal government has waxed and waned throughout our history. If memory serves, two of the biggest expansions in recent times have been the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and the prescription drug program for Medicare. Neither, so far as I recall, sparked secession petitions.

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