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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/17/2012 11:06:27 PM   
slvemike4u


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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What makes you think I give a shit what you like or dislike,lol
I doubt I will be asking "Skipper" anything.....cause I don't fucking care


Boy, you certainly spend a lot of time on something you don't fucking care about.

Why ?
Were you under the impression that my response to you took a lot of time ?
How long have you labored under such confusion ?

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/17/2012 11:08:52 PM   
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In Canada, Saputo Inc., the country’s largest snack cake maker, and George Weston Ltd. already own the rights to some Hostess brands.

Weston’s senior vice-president of investor relations, Geoffrey Wilson, said the company is not interested in any Hostess assets that might come up for sale.

But Weston is keen on continued investment in and marketing of Wonder Bread, for which it owns the Canadian rights, rights that are not affected by events south of the border, he said.

“It’s a very good seller. It’s a very important brand to us,” he said.

Meanwhile, dairy giant Saputo – whose ownership of the Canadian rights to the Hostess brand name is also not threatened by the liquidation – isn’t saying whether it might take a look at some of the Hostess brands and facilities.

The breakup of Hostess certainly represents an opening for rivals eager to gain market share, said Lionel Ettedgui, president of Saputo’s bakery division.

“This will create opportunities for all the players in the market,” he said.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/hostess-shuttering-us-business-but-canada-unaffected/article5365001/

Fucking Canadians.....trying to take over the Ding Dong concession

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/18/2012 4:19:01 AM   
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Boy, you certainly spend a lot of time on something you don't fucking care about.

Why ?
Were you under the impression that my response to you took a lot of time ?
How long have you labored under such confusion ?


And, yet, you continue. "A lot of time" is relative, and any time you spend on something you don't fucking care about, is a lot of time compared to what it deserves.

I am not confused about it, nor have I labored over it.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/18/2012 8:09:25 AM   
slvemike4u


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Let me get back to you on that.....lol.




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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/18/2012 8:40:31 AM   
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Because that's not how it works in the corporate world. If a company's sales go south, in Hostess's case, or the company does something illegal and gets fined billions, like a Fortune 500 company I used to work for, the shareholders and upper management will not allow themselves to lose income. Instead, they make up the difference by laying people off, expecting the remaining employees to do 2x the work at 80% the pay, all while raising prices for customers. Everybody has to pay for upper management's mistakes.... except for upper management.


Well stated. My wife's company routinely feels that it can ask more from its employees without upping their compensation.


Yeah, I ended up getting promoted to replace somebody that left, but was expected to still do my previous job as well as the new job. And while I officially got a raise of $1.12/hour, I also had my shift cut from 8 hours to 7, so I still ended up making less money. When my boss tried to pressure me into working extra hours off the clock so I could get everything done, that was the last straw for me.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/18/2012 1:37:58 PM   
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Its hard to blame American workers for wanting better jobs

Not hard at all, for some, judging by this thread.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/18/2012 1:39:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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Boy, you certainly spend a lot of time on something you don't fucking care about.

Why ?
Were you under the impression that my response to you took a lot of time ?
How long have you labored under such confusion ?


And, yet, you continue. "A lot of time" is relative, and any time you spend on something you don't fucking care about, is a lot of time compared to what it deserves.

I am not confused about it, nor have I labored over it.


So, if conservatives want these guys to have jobs, maybe they should pay out and make up the difference?

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/18/2012 1:53:11 PM   
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Check out the twinkie message boards.

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Many don't sound so hopeful about job prospects nor happy with good ole Frank from the Bakers Union.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/18/2012 2:01:38 PM   
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We are not amused.

Fuck all them cockgarglers, feeding our kids toxic chemicals and diabetes formulations.  They should have done better than to woo thier gashes with some chevy slovas and brylcream.



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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/19/2012 4:54:18 AM   
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Its hard to blame American workers for wanting better jobs; the question is -- are there any federal policies that might help shore up America's middle class beyond more progressive income taxes?

A punitive import duty on goods that American companies have manufactured outside of the country might encourage a few cheapskates to start manufacturing domestically again, which would improve the labour market and get people off welfare. Of course, I'm sure that'd create an even bigger libertarian hissy fit than the idea of raising the tax bite on the highest income bracket...

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/19/2012 6:59:54 AM   
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It really is amazing to see howm many of the left posters on tnis board considering this loss of good jobs either as a joke or a victory for The Bakers Union, while ignoring the devestaing loss to the 14,000 Teamsters and non Union workers.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/19/2012 7:02:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is really amazing , the absolute unwavering craven corporate capitulism demonstrated by the multitude of the right on any thread, including this one.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/19/2012 7:03:35 AM   
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FR

It really is amazing to see howm many of the left posters on tnis board considering this loss of good jobs either as a joke or a victory for The Bakers Union, while ignoring the devestaing loss to the 14,000 Teamsters and non Union workers.

It is amazing how you fail to recognize that the 13th. ammendment to the u.s. constitution will not be repealed by scumbags like the ones you are suporting.

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/19/2012 7:04:49 AM   
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It really is amazing to see howm many of the left posters on tnis board considering this loss of good jobs either as a joke or a victory for The Bakers Union, while ignoring the devestaing loss to the 14,000 Teamsters and non Union workers.

its amazing that you ignored the 750,000 jobs a month being lost back in 2007-2008
oh wait...no it isnt

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/19/2012 7:47:05 AM   
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FR

It really is amazing to see howm many of the left posters on tnis board considering this loss of good jobs either as a joke or a victory for The Bakers Union, while ignoring the devestaing loss to the 14,000 Teamsters and non Union workers.


Is it the union`s fault much of their market vanished when folks started eating healthier?

Was it the union`s fault that sugar price went up?

After taking two pay cuts and having to pay a higher share of their healthcare(another) paycut and having the jerkoffs who bought their company cut their pension benefits(another pay cut)...the Americans who`re you SOOOO concerned about would be getting a tad more than minimum wage.

We need more economic patriotism and to make this kind of vulture capitalism, against the law .

It`s clear that the predator-capitalists could have worked something out....the price of twinkies on eBay is proof of that.

They`ll cake out when they sell the company to real capitalists....( folks who actually make things and add to the economy)........those ass-holes`s pay-day was locked in when they bought the company and like the OP,couldn`t care less about Americans or America..... 


Corporate raiding explained in less than three minutes. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rodifJlis2c

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/19/2012 10:04:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		But don't you see owner,that's his (FDD) whole point.
The Bakers Union,in his opinion,should have bent over and spread 'em for the ineffectual management team so that the Teamsters and non union members could have kept their jobs
I guess that whole individualism crap only goes so far,in this case here FDD is saying the Bakers should have thought of the"collective" good rather than standing up for their own hard earned rights

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/19/2012 10:11:54 AM   
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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/19/2012 1:22:38 PM   
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But don't you see owner,that's his (FDD) whole point.
The Bakers Union,in his opinion,should have bent over and spread 'em for the ineffectual management team so that the Teamsters and non union members could have kept their jobs
I guess that whole individualism crap only goes so far,in this case here FDD is saying the Bakers should have thought of the"collective" good rather than standing up for their own hard earned rights



They'd all still have jobs now wouldn't they

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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 people their jobs - 11/19/2012 1:23:36 PM   
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RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs - 11/19/2012 1:29:29 PM   
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It's interesting to read what the employees directly affected are saying.

Check out the twinkie message boards.


Yep...if there's anything that CollarMe proves, it's that anonymous people posting to websites open to the public are absolutely, 100% trustworthy, amirite?

PS--I have 200 supermodel slaves in my basement right now. If you want to buy one, I'm sure we can arrange something wherein you paypal me money up-front and I send the girl later....

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