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Looking back...looking forward... - 6/16/2006 5:10:35 AM   
Chaingang


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Status: offline 		Project for the New American Century
http://www.newamericancentury.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Americana

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pax_Americana
http://www.geocities.com/ppplanet/bookman.htm

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RE: Looking back...looking forward... - 6/16/2006 6:10:16 AM   
meatcleaver


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Status: offline 		The Strausian philosophy is alive and well and in the Whitehouse. I'm not sure even jackals such as Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz believe the US has the military capability to do what the Romans did but the US is capable of flexing its military muscle and making countries flinch. As for the American Empire, that has been seen as a fact for over 40 years in Europe and one of the reasons France wants the EU to be strong enough to resist American pressure. Military forces in Europe is another sore point in certain sections of European body politic. Being thankful to the US for what it did in WWII is disapearing as the war generation dies off and cold war generation get older. Younger people while still into many things American, though apparently this is now in decline, have started to ask why the US is still in Europe. It's a patchwork as there are still many pro-Americans but wars like Iraq reduce this number.Whether it is true or not, The Project For The New American Century is seen as official American policy in much of the world.

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RE: Looking back...looking forward... - 6/16/2006 6:14:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dammit all. Why did I click on this thread?   It's too early in the morning to get the heebie jeebies.

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RE: Looking back...looking forward... - 6/16/2006 6:27:23 AM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		Thank you for a post with meat in it.

Pre-emptive strikes. That turns on the ear- what the US stood for in the past. 

I disagree with this as US foriegn policy. We live in an interdependent world. Like it or not we need others. We will always need others.

IMO  one gets more with a carrot- then with a stick.

So here we are.... much of the good will we had in the world squanderred. This policy makes us no better the USSR was.

When I hear bush say freedom and democracy...  I cringe.

What many miss- is that how we treat others will trickle down into this same country. ie Katrina. How dare the govt stand in the way. People all over the world sent help...only to be stopped from doing so. Even a semi full of water from Walmart was kept OUT.

Our govt was meant to be "for and by the people".

Well- this person, me, I for one disagree- with the current governence.

ouch.

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RE: Looking back...looking forward... - 6/16/2006 6:45:36 AM   
Chaingang


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Status: offline 		"Mission Accomplished?"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/11/AR2006061100739.html

It's about half-way down the page...

"Right-Wing Group Calling It Quits?"
http://www.alternet.org/story/37590/

I thought this one comment was most apt:

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Actually...
Posted by: dainin on Jun 16, 2006 5:16 AM

they have simply moved their offices. You can find them here.

http://www.whitehouse.gov
http://www.house.gov
http://www.senate.gov
http://www.usdoj.gov
etc.

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RE: Looking back...looking forward... - 6/16/2006 8:53:43 AM   
OedipusRexIt


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Status: offline 		so, do people actually open this thread and start reading all the links, with no clue where you're going???

I feel cheated whenever I open a thread like this.  Make more of an effort to create a discussion.  Does the OP wish to present a thesis, claim these links of indicative of his thought, or what?

The answer's not that important to me, so consider the question rhetorical.

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RE: Looking back...looking forward... - 6/16/2006 11:05:13 AM   
Chaingang


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Status: offline 		OedipusRexIt: Here's a trick just for you:
http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~jdavies/bode/cheech/ch_trick.jpg

People can and will do whatever they want. I don't have to make any effort whatever on your say so - go fuck yourself. Read it, don't read it, who gives a shit what you do?

The point of the thread is that the PNAC has apparently shut up shop. Why they did so is a matter for speculation.

< Message edited by Chaingang -- 6/16/2006 11:16:51 AM >

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