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whipmedo -> convincing boys. (11/6/2004 1:34:26 AM)

Thank You All for Your time. my name is adam. i believe totally in Female Supremacy. It seems so obvious to me. Women Rule. They are the Superior Gender. Why are so many males oblivious to this? Is it an intrinsic part of our brutish, ignorant nature?

i am a lifelong submissive but am new to the lifestyle, and not yet an active participant. But even the male "subs" i have spoken to do not seem like true subs to me. Most of them anyway. Instead, they seem to have their own agenda and want their own fantasies fulfilled. This is terribly unenlightened and disgusting to me. Another way to dominate our Female Superiors by "topping from the bottom." It is a pet peeve.

The world would be such a better place if all the males were busy as they should be, tending to their Mistresses' every need and desire like good boys. i would like to apologize for my gender. i am so ashamed of us males. Especially in the light of the recent election letdown. Yes, testosterone rules the day yet again, and thousands will die for a bunch of old, white-haired men and their power and profits. Crazy life.

i am sorry to have taken up Your time with my rambling. i would just like You all to know that there is a boy out there trying to preach the gospel of Female Supremacy and working towards a Matriarchal society, which is the natural order of things.

Thank You, all You Goddesses.

adam




sub4hire -> RE: convincing boys. (11/6/2004 7:49:56 AM)

quote:

Why are so many males oblivious to this? Is it an intrinsic part of our brutish, ignorant nature?

i am a lifelong submissive but am new to the lifestyle, and not yet an active participant. But even the male "subs" i have spoken to do not seem like true subs to me. Most of them anyway. Instead, they seem to have their own agenda and want their own fantasies fulfilled. This is terribly unenlightened and disgusting to me. Another way to dominate our Female Superiors by "topping from the bottom." It is a pet peeve.


I see many questions here.
Why do you consider yourself and your sex ignorant? Odd you say ignorant instead of stupid. So, do you just consider men uneducated in nature?

If a female allows themselves to be topped from the bottom. Or a man for all that matters. It is not the submissive or slave making them do so. They are just too weak at the time to know any different. Perhaps they are not a strong enough person themselves?

Why do people allow themselves to be ordered around by their submissives anyway? Are these brief moments of weakness on their part? Are they actually submissives by nature and don't realize it? Is it just a bad match?

Sorry I ripped apart your post but it made me think of many questions to ask.




SolidSX -> RE: convincing boys. (11/6/2004 9:00:49 AM)

LOL This sounds like an advertisement. "Oh maybe he really wants to serve!" Look, I'm submissive, but I don't believe that females are better than males. Nor do I believe that any one group of people is inherently better than another group based on race, gender, etc. You talk about the "ignorance" of your gender (and mine, obviously) yet you seem to be far more ignorant than most. At least you should have ended it, "My name is adam and I approve this message."




strongnsubmissiv -> RE: convincing boys. (11/6/2004 9:18:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: whipmedo


i am so ashamed of us males.

adam


Don't feel shame for me adam. I'm quite proud of who i am and have no problems with my gender.

To say that any one group of people is superior over the other is a little misguided. It certainly didn't get Hitler very far, although a little farther than we would have liked.

If i could suggest one thing to you, keep an open mind when it comes to this lifestyle. There's so much to learn. Learning about yourself is probably the most important part.

sns

ps.. all generalizations are false. :P




LadySonelle -> RE: convincing boys. (11/6/2004 11:45:24 AM)


It is not so much that men are ignorant, as they are simply... wild! Feral if you wish. If I owned a herd of horses, beautiful Thoroughbreds or sleek Morgans, but never trained them to saddle or halter, bit or longue line, ought I to be surprised if one bites, kicks, runs from Me or throws Me when I attempt to ride him?

Men are, in the wild, beautiful in their violence and tumultousness.... except for the damage they do! But out of the chaos that is the un-domesticated, un-trained male, arises, with training, a beautiful, disciplined submissive creature that *any* Woman would feel honoured to have at Her feet!

Take any powerful, aggressive animal, be it horse, dog, hunting cat or falcon, train it and guide it into the channels of obedience, within its species mental limits, and you have a thing of beauty and splendour! So do not 'give up' on men altogether! Without you, we Mistresses would have to resort to whacking rocks! :)

As for the election, yes, I too, am in mourning! I, of course, did NOT tell my slaves how to vote, that would not have been correct, but I had *hoped*......

The good news is that with every repressive regime, sexual tension rises and with it, an increase in interest in the more outre practises such as BDSM.

You think that NONE of those senators and congressmen enjoy being in diapers, having their fannies tanned or mincing about in six inche heels and French maid get-ups?! I have a bridge to sell you!

Apres tout le beaux joues, Je te dis... "Merci beaucoups mon Enfants!"

Lagniappe pour Moi le Maitresse!

Lady Sonelle




Suleiman -> RE: convincing boys. (11/6/2004 6:58:23 PM)

Here's a little exercise for you, whipmedo, that I think may help explain what is wrong with your argument.

Take the post you have delivered here. Replace every use of "boy" or "male" with "black. Replace every use of "woman" or "female" with "white". Replace "gender" with "race". Now go back and tell me if there is anything offensive in what you have just said.




MistressFire70 -> RE: convincing boys. (11/6/2004 9:11:29 PM)

*sigh* I think you're just plain wrong, hon. If I had to vote for who was superior between Ghandi and Susan Smith, I'd go for the one with the cock. It just doesn't have anything to do with having or not having a vagina, but everything to do with proving yourself worthy to serve and be served.

Fire






Toyboy101 -> RE: convincing boys. (11/10/2004 5:59:23 PM)

MistressFire,

i am afraid i have to disagree with Your statement. i believe that the only fair comparison must be to compare the best of both genders or the worst of both genders. Comparing Gandhi to Susan Smith is not really a fair approach. A question You might ask Yourself would be how many Susan Smiths are there and how many equivalent male counterparts are there? Although Ms Smith is certainly an abomination i'd have to say that for every one like there there are a multitude of males of equivalent evilness.

TB




subgreg -> RE: convincing boys. (12/6/2004 5:36:17 PM)

Hopefully, the male/male bashing is merely posturing for the Dommes, not that I think most Dommes would want a man that thinks that way anyway. If as a male you find that you are inferior to all females, then what is so special about giving yourself to a particular Domme.
But while I find that kind of posturing misguided, it would be preferable to the lack of self esteem that would result in that kind of thinking. Yes I consider myself a submissive male, and yes I would loveto find the right Domme to serve, but I do not feel that men are inherently inferior to women or that subs are inferior to Dom/mes, they just have differing views on their place in a relationship.




proudsub -> RE: convincing boys. (12/6/2004 7:37:47 PM)

Here are some earlier threads on female supremacy for you to browse:

female supremacy???My rant

female supremacy




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: convincing boys. (12/6/2004 7:58:13 PM)

Why for once Suleiman can't we leave the race alone?
I for one don't have a single problem with his thinking as is, and loved LadySonelle's reply.
Ms M




alwayzron -> RE: convincing boys. (12/6/2004 8:53:39 PM)

Adam,

... do not seem like true subs ... So tell us ... what exactly is a 'true' sub?

... apologize for my gender.... Apologize for yourself. I have no problems with who and how I am ... and I have quite a few FemDoms who are happy with who and how I am as well.

.... in light of the recent election letdown. ... WTF ?!?!?!? The only let down is a person like you who can't see that as long as people vote democracy is alive, regardless of who wins.

.... thousands will die for a bunch of old, white-haired men .... This statement really peeves me. I'm active duty military ... you have no right to use the death of these men and women to prop up your politcal views. Of course ... let's continue to ignore the 1000s of men, women and children who were tortured and died under an oppressive and despotic regime. Life is so much easier to take if we forget about other people's suffering and stay concerned about ours only.

Now it's my turn to apologize to the ladies (and men) of this board. The purpose of this board is not to wave flags ... but I can only smell bullshit so long before I have to scrape it off of my boots.

((If anyone wants to respond personally to this, my e-mail account is [email protected]. All intelligent and sane replies will be answered.))

alwayz, ron




siamsa24 -> RE: convincing boys. (12/6/2004 9:20:25 PM)

I know that I am a switch, but I have to comment. I have been talking with an individual who thinks in this exact same way and he cannot understand why I am not interested in him. I don't want someone who wants to serve me simply based on my gender alone, that's just silly. I want someone who will serve because of me, not because of something that I had no control over.


YAY!!! and to think that this post gained me another status level [:D]




BeachMystress -> RE: convincing boys. (12/7/2004 3:29:32 AM)


While I think the female body is superior to the male body in that it can take a single cell and create life, that no way, shape or form speaks to the worth of the personality inhabiting that body. There are great women, there are great men. This is a lifestyle of tolerance. This means that even though you annoy me and I find you to be a bigot, I'll deal with the fact that you exist. I would take it as a personal favor though if you'd try to tone down the bigotry a notch. You've said you are new and I understand the zeal of the recent convert. I understand you were trying to let us know how strong your feelings are on this subject. Next time, please try to do so without impugning random others. My subs and male friends do not need you to apologize for them. No one set of people is superior to another. As suliman said, just changing a few words turns it into an abhorrent racist rant. That ought to put things into better perspective for you.




Jasmyn -> RE: convincing boys. (12/7/2004 4:09:26 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: whipmedo

Thank You All for Your time. my name is adam. i believe totally in Female Supremacy. It seems so obvious to me. Women Rule. They are the Superior Gender. Why are so many males oblivious to this? Is it an intrinsic part of our brutish, ignorant nature?

i am a lifelong submissive but am new to the lifestyle, and not yet an active participant. But even the male "subs" i have spoken to do not seem like true subs to me. Most of them anyway. Instead, they seem to have their own agenda and want their own fantasies fulfilled. This is terribly unenlightened and disgusting to me. Another way to dominate our Female Superiors by "topping from the bottom." It is a pet peeve.

The world would be such a better place if all the males were busy as they should be, tending to their Mistresses' every need and desire like good boys. i would like to apologize for my gender. i am so ashamed of us males. Especially in the light of the recent election letdown. Yes, testosterone rules the day yet again, and thousands will die for a bunch of old, white-haired men and their power and profits. Crazy life.

i am sorry to have taken up Your time with my rambling. i would just like You all to know that there is a boy out there trying to preach the gospel of Female Supremacy and working towards a Matriarchal society, which is the natural order of things.

Thank You, all You Goddesses.

adam



Your welcome adam ;)




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LadySonelle -> RE: convincing boys. (12/7/2004 9:53:09 PM)

Alwayz, My dear... My first servitor, slave k's SON is currently *serving* In Iraq! slave k comes from a military family and grew up in BOQ. Her mother was an officer in the WAC during World War II, her father a colonel in the Air Force, her brother died in Korea. Her grandfather was a general serving under Eisenhower and in the Phillipines. He wrote a book on military strategy.

My own family is similar. Our blood has soaked into this country's soil since 1630 when we came to America and both slave k and I are DAR on all sides of our families.

All my life I have actively supported our military. My own uncle died in WWII and in my genealogical research I found that a great great grandfather had been imprisoned at the infamous Andersonville Prison during the Civil War.

That said, I must ask you, *please* do NOT confuse our anger at this administration with not supporting the soldiers!! I abhor *waste* and I absolutely hate profligacy and wantonness in spending our national resources. To Me, sending thousands of men and women to be mained or killed, *ought* to be for a meaningful goal! I would NOT use Porthault 800 thread count sheets as dropcloths. I would not spin doughnuts in a Rolls Royce. I would not use a Lalique or LLadro figurine to pound thumbtacks or Kirk-Steiff silver to pry open a tin! And I would nost cERTAINLY not use our precious, our brave, our valiant and noble men and women in uniform, to whom we ALL owe more than we can EVER repay, in a saw such as the one we are currently embroiled in. It is My very love and support of our troops which makes Me angry.

Believe Me, if *any* President, let alone the current occupant of the White House, had done this, I would be JUST as angry. I salute you, your courage and your service to this nation. I do not wish to see you or your comrades in arms sent to pad a man's ego or bank account.

Lady Sonelle




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: convincing boys. (12/7/2004 10:12:40 PM)

Am going to have to "me too" LadySonelle, because she expresses so eloquently...
That Adam has a problem with this war and death of our people is not his feeling alone; I never say it here, because I feel people are on 2 extremes on this war, and nothing I say will convinvce anyone to change his mind on the matter (well, actually I did convince 1 male coworker, so that was impressive), but I don't think he should be attacked for having his own views (different from yours), and I don't think he sounds AT ALL insensitive or disrespectful to our men/women in service to this country.
He also states that "most men do not seem like true subs"; I've seen this very same/similar statements in MANY a post before, where mistresses discuss that a LOT of the men who approach are married, or simply Smart asses with fantasy itch they want scratched; If you do a search, you'll find this to be a fairly common statement at least on these boards. I don't have enough experience, but have certainly met a few such men.
My $.02....... Ms M




MistressFire70 -> RE: convincing boys. (12/8/2004 8:13:14 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BeachMystress

While I think the female body is superior to the male body in that it can take a single cell and create life...


While I totally agree with what you said AFTER this statement, I must comment on this one. Last time I checked, sperm was needed to create that life, too. Heck, even in most mythologies where half-gods were created, the man or woman needed a god to mate with. We do carry and birth the children, but we can't do it totally alone. Even cloning needs a shove in the right direction.

Fire




BeachMystress -> RE: convincing boys. (12/8/2004 12:25:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressFire70

quote:

ORIGINAL: BeachMystress

While I think the female body is superior to the male body in that it can take a single cell and create life...


While I totally agree with what you said AFTER this statement, I must comment on this one. Last time I checked, sperm was needed to create that life, too. Heck, even in most mythologies where half-gods were created, the man or woman needed a god to mate with. We do carry and birth the children, but we can't do it totally alone. Even cloning needs a shove in the right direction.

Fire




It is true we've not managed parthenogenic reproduction yet. But if you take one cell from a man's body (sperm) a woman's body can create life. If you take one cell from a woman's body (egg) and hand it to a male.. what can he make with it? We do not yet hold the technology to incubate a child from conception to birth in an artificial environment.




LadyShoshin -> RE: convincing boys. (12/8/2004 6:06:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: whipmedo

Thank You All for Your time. my name is adam. i believe totally in Female Supremacy. It seems so obvious to me. Women Rule. They are the Superior Gender. Why are so many males oblivious to this? Is it an intrinsic part of our brutish, ignorant nature?

i am a lifelong submissive but am new to the lifestyle, and not yet an active participant. But even the male "subs" i have spoken to do not seem like true subs to me. Most of them anyway. Instead, they seem to have their own agenda and want their own fantasies fulfilled. This is terribly unenlightened and disgusting to me. Another way to dominate our Female Superiors by "topping from the bottom." It is a pet peeve.

The world would be such a better place if all the males were busy as they should be, tending to their Mistresses' every need and desire like good boys. i would like to apologize for my gender. i am so ashamed of us males. Especially in the light of the recent election letdown. Yes, testosterone rules the day yet again, and thousands will die for a bunch of old, white-haired men and their power and profits. Crazy life.

i am sorry to have taken up Your time with my rambling. i would just like You all to know that there is a boy out there trying to preach the gospel of Female Supremacy and working towards a Matriarchal society, which is the natural order of things.

Thank You, all You Goddesses.

adam


Funny, I am a female Domme and don't find either women or men to be superior. Each individual has their own strengths and weaknesses. Some men are ignorant, so are some women. I personally wouldn't want a sub who felt inferior to me or who is ignorant. I much prefer a strong, intelligent male who submits because he chooses to, not because he thinks I am better than he is. Trying to maintain a facade of superiority would be too stressful for me. There are times I don't feel very Domly or superior. Life kicks me in the head and I go to my roommate to talk. He is a male submissive, not MY submissive, at home we are equals. But he is one of the best submissives I know, he is wise as well as intelligent, he is strong morally and emotionally, but there are times when either of us allows the wounded part to show and if I was trying to maintain an air of superiority, I couldn't allow that to happen.

I may be very wrong, as it is easy to misunderstand the intent of posts when one can't see the body language, facial expression or vocal tone. I don't know you so may be way off base, but your post sounds a little too desperate, as though the words were crafted to be what you think a Domme wants to hear. As I say, I may be off base, but then I get to be, I am after all Superior. [:D]




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