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RE: Why online isn't - 2/5/2007 5:30:01 PM

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So, some would and some would not trade a year of phone for a single night in person. Besides being clearly biased toward real life, it isn't the point.

I have yet to hear what you can only do long distance that an equally talented/deep person can't do in person.

Look, Michael. I have spent a good deal of time and energy trying to share my view with you. On occasions when you thought you saw a chink you could slip a rejoinder into, you responded to what I said. Other than that, I don't recall you acknowledging any value in anything I have offered so far.

In fact I have, even before my last post to M&B, discussed things that can only happen remotely. You either are not reading my posts (fair enough) or are selectively ignoring important parts of them (also fair enough.)

All of that taken together doesn't really motivate me to give you lessons in a whole range of aspects of remote training that have just escaped you.

From your first paragraph I glean that you intend to cling to your bizarre metaphysics of multiple reality levels. It may just be that our world views are incommensurable. It may be that you are willfully ignoring my best efforts to come to share some of my understanding with you. It may be that I'm a blooming idiot. In any case, I'm not interested in continuing this conversation.

I look forward to your posts on other subjects and will surely respond from time to time. I can very sincerely report that I expect and hope to learn from you, again, as I have in the past. This conversation, however, I leave you to continue with anyone else you care to.

Maybe on adjacent barstools we could find a way to get somewhere with this stuff. If the occasion ever arises, the first round is on me. I hope that's fair enough.

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RE: Why online isn't - 2/5/2007 5:32:00 PM

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Now in a poly situation where one is already married to another it would be hard to marry someone in an international romance, so alternatives to that route would have to be thought of. Sometimes it is immigration laws that stand in the way, not the human heart.

Very Very True... and a situation and risk that I am very intimately aware of. But... as things get processed... we work on building and maintaing what we have..

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RE: Why online isn't - 2/5/2007 5:38:57 PM

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KoM,

From what I have observed of your situation... all is well! Your family is an inspiration to me on a few levels, the biggest is the positivity and the warmth between all of you.

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RE: Why online isn't - 2/5/2007 5:40:48 PM

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All of that taken together doesn't really motivate me to give you lessons in a whole range of aspects of remote training that have just escaped you.

a phrase I heard once... "one doesn't learn until they are ready to learn"

not to go off topic... but lets take I don't know.... Needle play for example.

If you don't see any value in it... or don't see any interesting things in it... are you going to be interested in learning anything about it... mmmmmmm likely not. but then .. just because you not interested in Needle Play... doesn't mean that it devalues that type of play for those that enjoy it... or even universally some other play is greater than Needle Play. But it is indeed that individuals preference.

Sometimes thou.. when the person is ready... or have learn a few steps on things.. they suddenly look at needle play in an entirely different light and are eager to learn it.

For myself... I wasn't interested in having an LDR in the least... but.... when someone of such quality comes along... I would of been foolish not to venture down the path and learn how to make it work. Needle Play.. LDR... or whatever... when the situation is right.. one will take the step to learn it.. and find the value it... until then... many will pass on X and go for Y

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RE: Why online isn't - 2/5/2007 5:44:57 PM

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It one better... well I am sure everyone as their preferences... but you know what... you find me a objective score card that tells us all what is the best kind of relationship and I will side with you on the face to face is aaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllwwwwwwways better then LDR.

OK, this made me laugh. I immediately thought of my mother and the fact that a LDR with her is WAY better than F2F!

I guess it's all subjective. For some relationships, I prefer F2F, for others, LD is best and in still others, I have no choice in the matter.. it is what it is and I have to live with it regardless of how I may feel about it.

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RE: Why online isn't - 2/5/2007 5:52:22 PM

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KoM,

From what I have observed of your situation... all is well! Your family is an inspiration to me on a few levels, the biggest is the positivity and the warmth between all of you.

Thank you

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RE: Why online isn't - 2/5/2007 5:55:05 PM

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OK, this made me laugh. I immediately thought of my mother and the fact that a LDR with her is WAY better than F2F!

My mother is the same way. She once said that the reason my dad and her are still together is because he was away for so much of the time. Now he is disabled and home all the time and it drives her nuts.

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RE: Why online isn't - 2/5/2007 5:55:16 PM

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Wow - this one goes on FOREVER - wish I could get people to go on this long about any of my interests or concerns. It's unfortunate that some people have such difficulty finding r/l playmates and it's good that some of them find a release here that would not otherwise have. Personally, I haven't found the online resources to be very helpful, overall. It's just another place to have trouble finding a compatible play partner - but it keeps me occupied sometimes.

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RE: Why online isn't - 2/5/2007 5:58:37 PM

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.... It's just another place to have trouble finding a compatible play partner - but it keeps me occupied sometimes.

mmmmmmmm really... I haven't found it to be that much trouble at all.

of course... in person or online... the results are pretty comparable ... at least that has been my experience.

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RE: Why online isn't - 2/5/2007 6:05:20 PM

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lol - yeah - I'm pretty weird (even to folks around here), so I don't expect too much luck - although I've had much more in r/l, but I've been at that much longer

KR

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RE: Why online isn't - 2/5/2007 6:08:48 PM

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Of course I am going to get off topic here...

KingRichard... is that as in Richard the LionHeart?

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RE: Why online isn't - 2/5/2007 6:10:57 PM

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Of course I am going to get off topic here...

KingRichard... is that as in Richard the LionHeart?

Or Richard the Chickenheart if you like lol - and we're already off-topic

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RE: Why online isn't - 2/5/2007 6:21:53 PM

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One thing does stand out...actually two things. All the LDR proponents have met. So, I can't think of what they are describing as only a cyber thing. Plus, we have divided the phone from cyber. They are different and I am reading some apparently keep it to cyber without the phone. The limitation from the spoken word also has me wondering.

Once you meet, you may have online or phone play or ethereal, poetic bashes, if you will, and often they are talks about what you have done. That is different to me from a relationship that is always going to be "limited" to cyber.

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RE: Why online isn't - 2/5/2007 7:43:39 PM

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