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Yachtie -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 7:14:46 AM)

fr

We could eventually incorporate. Go public. Make a killing. Stash cash in the Caymens.

Life could be soooo good[:D]




thompsonx -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 7:44:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

fr

We could eventually incorporate. Go public. Make a killing. Stash cash in the Caymens.

Life could be soooo good[:D]

Far better to move to amsterdam and buy a crib situated between a whore house and a "coffee shop".Or better yet buy a bulldog franchise next to a whore house ...short commute[;)]




mnottertail -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 7:46:30 AM)

Nah, you would have to put up with universal healthcare, so its a non starter.




tazzygirl -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 7:47:23 AM)

Think they are catching on yet?




Hillwilliam -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 7:48:21 AM)

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How many on the Right parroted her even though they knew it was a lie?

Or were they too ignorant to know it was a lie?



It isn't a lie, Hill. That's what she called it. That's what she believed it was. That's the mentality our country has embraced and elevated. You helped. Live with it.


So you don't think the youtube was a setup huh?
Awful damn convenient wasn't it?
Again. Either those who parroted it either knew it was a lie or they were too ignorant not to.
As for I helped? How?
I voted for McCain, remember?




thompsonx -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 7:48:21 AM)


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Nah, you would have to put up with universal healthcare, so its a non starter.

Not at all...between what I have and their health care life could put a perminant smile on my face.[:D]




mnottertail -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 7:48:40 AM)

No.......not...............................ever.




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 8:25:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Nah, you would have to put up with universal healthcare, so its a non starter.


I like the idea of universal healthcare.
There's no way I could pay for medical insurance or for medication needed as I grow into old age.
I like the fact that I can go to my doctor or a hospital with a problem and receive treatment and not have to look at my bank balance to see if I can afford it or not.

It's one of the main reasons I didn't emigrate to the US in 2002.





DesideriScuri -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 9:42:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
How many on the Right parroted her even though they knew it was a lie?
Or were they too ignorant to know it was a lie?

It isn't a lie, Hill. That's what she called it. That's what she believed it was. That's the mentality our country has embraced and elevated. You helped. Live with it.

So you don't think the youtube was a setup huh?


Nope. I don't think so. I'm not saying she wasn't wrong. I don't know that she actually knew when the program started.

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Awful damn convenient wasn't it?


As convenient as anything else where people are honest and ignorant of the truth. Makes one wonder if it was simply too convenient for some asshat to show up to a Tea Party event with some stupid racist placard....

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Again. Either those who parroted it either knew it was a lie or they were too ignorant not to.
As for I helped? How?
I voted for McCain, remember?


The veracity of the claim wasn't the point, Hill. It was the mentality behind the claim. She thought Obama gave her the phone, and she trumpeted it. You think she'd have believed it started well before Obama started in National politics? The point was that there are shloads of people who see these things as coming from the Obama Administration and would vote for him because of it.




TheHeretic -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 6:47:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Since Rich wont,




Job, Tazzy. You know, those things the 53% do, in order to finance the lifestyles of people who get to Google and snark on the internet all day long?

If you are now going from the entire protest being staged for the cameras, to the entire protest being staged for a commercial, I'm going to expect you to offer some evidence, especially when unauthorized video of Romney at a private event was held for months, so it could be released and put into ads at the most convenient moment.




thishereboi -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 7:16:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stef
*sniff* Stinky bait. Nice troll.



Aww. Sorry if I posted a little something the conservatives among us are having fun with. [;)]


some people don't understand humor unless it comes from the left.

Then there are those with no sense except nonsense



Yup, which is why I usually ignore your posts.




tazzygirl -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 7:18:45 PM)

At the time you were asked, you were still on line.

Super PAC Tea Party Victory Fund is using the "Obama Phone" lady in a new Ohio swing-state aimed ad.

The pitch for the video, which asks donors for help in spreading the video in the state, is written by the Fund's chairman Ken Blackwell, Ohio's former secretary of state, via SLATE:

This is it-- this is the October surprise. We just need to get this ad on television today. Will you help us?

This commercial is a microcosm of the difference between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans want to create an environment where free people make their own choices and pursue their dreams. President Obama and the Democrats want to create a dependency on Government that ensures that Americans will continue to rely on Washington from cradle to grave.

What this lady said is so offensive because it's so blatant--she finally comes out and says what we all know that the Democrats really think. That's why this ad is so damaging to the President here in Ohio.

Let me tell you something, I'm from Ohio -- I was elected statewide as the Secretary of State, and Ohio State Treasurer--this ad is effective. If swing voters in this state see this ad, they simply will not support President Obama, and he will lose Ohio.


http://nation.foxnews.com/tea-party/2012/10/15/tea-party-drops-hardcore-ad-starring-obama-phone-lady

Now, lets see..... as of 2009, Snopes ran the following....

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

So they all knew it wasnt an "Obamaphone".

She turns out to be propagating an urban legend, one we'd previously heard from conservative friends. The "phone" part is true. There is a federally mandated, state-administered program known as Lifeline that subsidizes telephone service for low-income subscribers. But the "Obama" part is imagined. As Snopes.com explains, Lifeline dates back to the 1980s, and the Dayton Daily News reported in August that Ohio expanded it in 2008 to include cellphones.

"Just How Racist Is the 'Obama Phone' Video?" asked The Atlantic Wire's Elspeth Reeve in the title of a Thursday post. "It's totally and obviously racist according to some racists who rushed to a 'White Pride' Internet forum as soon as they heard about it on Rush Limbaugh's show," she answered, making an appeal to an extremely dubious authority.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444592404578030511606922322.html

I agree, that is exactly what she is doing... and over acting very well. Especially when these videos were shown first to 3 predominantly ( greater than 70% white) counties in Ohio, a state needed by Romney to win.

The pitch is written by the Fund's titular chairman Ken Blackwell, Ohio's former secretary of state -- and, important for the messaging here, a black man.

This is it-- this is the October surprise. We just need to get this ad on television today.Will you help us?

This commercial is a microcosm of the difference between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans want to create an environment where free people make their own choices and pursue their dreams. President Obama and the Democrats want to create a dependency on Government that ensures that Americans will continue to rely on Washington from cradle to grave.

What this lady said is so offensive because it's so blatant--she finally comes out and says what we all know that the Democrats really think. That's why this ad is so damaging to the President here in Ohio.

Let me tell you something, I'm from Ohio -- I was elected statewide as the Secretary of State, and Ohio State Treasurer--this ad is effective. If swing voters in this state see this ad, they simply will not support President Obama, and he will lose Ohio.

The ad's going up first in Lucas, Summit, and Mahoning counties.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/10/15/the_obama_phone_lady_makes_it_into_an_anti_obama_pac_ad.html

Why Lucas? Predominantly white, voted 2 to 1 Democrat in 2008 Presidential election.

http://oh-lucascounty.civicplus.com/documents/Board%20of%20Elections/Historic%20Election%20Results/2008/Jurisdiction%20Wide.PDF

Summit County same thing...

http://www.city-data.com/elec08/SUMMIT-OHIO.html

Mahoning as well.

http://www.city-data.com/elec08/MAHONING-OHIO.html

So we have three counties, predominantly white by almost 80% or more in each county, voting Democratic in the last Presidential election by almost 2 to 1, in an election where no one disputes the value of Ohio's electorial votes, flooded with ads even the former Secretary of State admits is inflamatory... and someone who knew the information was erroneous.

Sorry, Rich... waaaaaaaaaaay too many coincidences.




tazzygirl -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 7:20:21 PM)

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Job, Tazzy. You know, those things the 53% do, in order to finance the lifestyles of people who get to Google and snark on the internet all day long?


Suggesting you are financing my lifestyle?




FatDomDaddy -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 7:30:14 PM)

FR

THIS IS THE BEST THREAD EVER!




TheHeretic -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 8:13:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

At the time you were asked, you were still on line.




Well, the computer was. I normally shut down when I'm grabbing my wallet and keys to go do my part as a productive, tax-paying member of society. By the time you popped in with your unfounded nonsense, I was on to a different sort of morning shit. [8|]

And your nonsense remains unfounded, no matter what list of where the video went later you can come up with. You have nothing but desperate denial that this woman was exactly what she appeared to be. It was an Obama campaign associated protest, who paid this woman to get in a van, and go hold a sign while running her mouth. She ran her mouth too much, for the wrong camera.

As I recall, the other clip you insisted established her as having blown her lines, features other people in the protest acknowleding that she was with the group.

If the video was a fraud, then why haven't the organizers of the protest come forward to state she was a plant? Why hasn't she been exposed? Why has all the attention gone into distracting from the mindset that provided those words, by focusing instead on her historical ignorance of the program she was crediting President Obama for?

I'll tell you why, Tazzy. Because that woman was just as real as the NAACP audience chuckling and tittering in anticipation of the story of 'fucking over the white man because you can,' they thought Shirley Sherrod was about to tell them, and so the story had to be about something else in both cases.

Since we're on the Obamaphone lady, and it's time for a segue, there is going to be damn good money in providing home health care services (with amazing opportunities for fraud) in the new liberalism, but I'll be avoiding that segment of the market entirely. I may be cynical, but I'm not evil enough to have an employee emptying that hag's bedpan for a buck or two over minumum wage.




tazzygirl -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 8:27:56 PM)

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And your nonsense remains unfounded, no matter what list of where the video went later you can come up with. You have nothing but desperate denial that this woman was exactly what she appeared to be. It was an Obama campaign associated protest, who paid this woman to get in a van, and go hold a sign while running her mouth. She ran her mouth too much, for the wrong camera.


And the producer holds O'Keefe as his idol... enough said.




TheHeretic -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 8:36:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

And the producer holds O'Keefe as his idol... enough said.



LOL. About more than you might have intended.





tazzygirl -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 8:37:26 PM)

Hardly [;)]




TheHeretic -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 8:39:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
enough said.



No. Not enough said. This was the part put directly to you as a question.

I'll repeat myself.

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If the video was a fraud, then why haven't the organizers of the protest come forward to state she was a plant? Why hasn't she been exposed? Why has all the attention gone into distracting from the mindset that provided those words, by focusing instead on her historical ignorance of the program she was crediting President Obama for?




tazzygirl -> RE: Maybe it's time... (11/27/2012 8:41:37 PM)

Because.... no one knows who the hell she is.. even the organizers of the protest.




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