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TheHeretic -> RE: The German model (11/30/2012 6:29:47 AM)

Some days, the fish just jump into the boat.




mnottertail -> RE: The German model (11/30/2012 6:31:56 AM)

Yup, and some days the idiots copiously drool, why; look at the lead up to the election, if we could have saved all that drool, we could have prevented 'global warming'.




Politesub53 -> RE: The German model (11/30/2012 11:04:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Some days, the fish just jump into the boat.


And somedays you just use "It was humour" as an excuse to cover your tracks.




TheHeretic -> RE: The German model (11/30/2012 5:45:55 PM)

You should have known better to begin with, Polite.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: The German model (11/30/2012 7:18:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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I await the defense of the bedrock of socialism's utopian experiment with great anticipation.


There will be 40 feet of snow in furnace creek before your peurile assertion has any bassis in fact.


Thompson....truly...you need to read something beyond the headlines before you speak.




Politesub53 -> RE: The German model (12/1/2012 4:34:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

You should have known better to begin with, Polite.


Hard to tell with your posts Rich. It wouldnt be the first time the right post some nonsense and claim it is "just humour"




Edwynn -> RE: The German model (12/1/2012 6:47:57 AM)


Yeah, well, that "tax the poor, feed the rich" thing, as funny as it was in theory, turned out to be quite costly and economically disastrous when some fools got elected to government on that "joke."

Society's sense of humour can only go so far.






Lucylastic -> RE: The German model (12/1/2012 9:20:48 AM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQIYEPe6DWY




Politesub53 -> RE: The German model (12/1/2012 12:11:13 PM)

Gotta love Kraftwerk Sweet Cheeks.......[8D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD5P7RsC9TI




Lucylastic -> RE: The German model (12/1/2012 12:14:51 PM)

LOL Ive been listening to their albums since I posted it:)
Thankyou:)

LMAO I love Bill Bailey:)




lemarquis2 -> RE: The German model (12/3/2012 12:41:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

Some folks here love to tout the EU as superior. A few even parade Germany as a model.

On September 17, the German Labor Ministry sent a draft report “on Poverty and Wealth” to the other ministries to be rubber-stamped. Only the final report, once sanctified by Chancellor Angela Merkel, would be made public. The draft was supposed to remain hidden. But it seeped to the surface almost immediately. And it was hot. Too hot.

The massive data (PDF, 535 pages) described the tough reality that many people faced in Germany—a reality that got tougher every year. For example, in 1998, the lower 50% of the population owned 4% of all private wealth, while the upper 10% owned 45%. By 2008, the lower 50% owned only 1%, but the upper 10% had increased its share to 53% (at the expense also of the in-between 40%). Other reports have painted similar pictures.

The poverty report by Germany’s statistical agency showed that the “poverty rate” in Germany has been creeping up: in 2008, it was 15.5%; in 2009 it was 15.6%, and in 2010 it was 15.8%. Particularly hard-hit were people under 65 who lived alone. Their poverty rate was 36.1%. For single-parent households, it was 37.1%. The city of Munich issued its own poverty report. By taking into account Munich’s high cost of living, it found that nearly a fifth of its residents lived in poverty.

Poverty data has been stirring public debate for a while, and across most of Europe. Even the largest consumer products companies are adjusting to it by using commercial strategies that were successful in developing countries [read.... The “Pauperization of Europe”]. But now the Labor Ministry’s “Poverty and Wealth” report, as revised by the Economy Ministry, was leaked to the Süddeutsche Zeitung, which then put a grunt to work to compare the two versions. Turns out, the original version had been censured!

It started in the introduction. In the new version, the sentence, “Private wealth in Germany is very unevenly distributed,” has been deleted.

...

Even certain data has been deleted, including this sentence: “However, in 2010, over four million people worked in Germany for an hourly wage of less than €7.”



For the whole article with links.


I await the defense of the bedrock of socialism's utopian experiment with great anticipation. [:D]




Everything between your top and bottom lines is more or less correct but with omission of certain facts. The real embarassment is that a conservative Minister of Labour in a conservative-liberal coalition government had to admit what many predicted as a consequence of their labour and economy policies, as was denied by them for years - an increase of poverty, and an increase in inability to cover essential costs of life like rent, energy, food, clothing, education asf with average level wages which have been factually reduced for years. So what the reports publish now is far from real news and not unexpected either.

Your identification of all that as "socialism's utopian and so forth" is, however, simply nonsense as in no sense at all: It is - more or less openly admitted by the way - the partly re-introduction of 19th century Manchester-style capitalism in labour policy.
Germany as a model (... of what?) - maybe also as a warning




LookieNoNookie -> RE: The German model (12/3/2012 5:21:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwynn


Yeah, well, that "tax the poor, feed the rich" thing, as funny as it was in theory, turned out to be quite costly and economically disastrous when some fools got elected to government on that "joke."

Society's sense of humour can only go so far.



Ya know the funny thing is that...all you folks that think it's hilarious that that whole "tax the poor, feed the rich" thing is so hilarious....you're about to discover that the guy you thought was going to save you...and America is indeed going to do exactly that.

On the backs of everyone.

Ironically, Republicans couldn't have voted in a better President.

Finally, for the first time since Carter, we're going to tax everyone...the wealthy more by %, but indeed....everyone is gonna get hit....and frankly, that's a good thing.

I'm all good with that.




Moonhead -> RE: The German model (12/4/2012 8:03:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQIYEPe6DWY

Does my voice not carry or something, Lucy?


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

FR:
I was very disappointed by the misleading title of this thread...

(post 10)




Lucylastic -> RE: The German model (12/4/2012 9:39:09 AM)

Perverts minds think alike hon, sorry I must have missed that:)




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