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'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/29/2012 6:16:29 PM   
icarus020


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Status: offline 		Okay, so I just posted this on my journal, but realised that it might make an interesting discussion.

Domination Computer programs.

They are odd things I think. My friend...Jane...I talked about her in my last post. We'll she's quite kind hearted and apparently came across something she though I might enjoy.

Today she installed UVM (a mod of the Virtual Master program) on my computer. She set it up and altered the punishments, tasks and clothings to be more tailored around me. She's added in that I should try and use it for 72 hours.

So far it's been a little over 24 hours and I am quite amazed at how interesting it's been. Whilst it doesn't have the satisfying feeling of being at a dominant's feet, it does have the control element that a D/s relationship can have.

The webcam element and the irregular intervals at which it takes photos is quite interesting. Whilst it's easy enough to cheat for some reason i don't seem to want to.

Of course it doesn't emulate the feeling of being in a 'real' D/s relationship but it comes interestingly close. I guess it would be a good way of dominating someone over a distance or over t'internet.

What do other people think of these things?
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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/29/2012 7:00:24 PM   
theRose4U


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Status: offline 		I think someone figured out how to make a virtual pet kinky. If we forget to feed you for a week will you still be alive asking for a treat?

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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/29/2012 7:05:44 PM   
icarus020


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Status: offline 		Not at all, in fact I'm fairly serious about being safe with things. I'm not gonna do anything to put myself in harms way...well not serious harm...well not life-threatening...unless I'm free-climbing in Scotland!

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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/29/2012 7:21:02 PM   
DomMeinCT


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Status: offline 		What do I think? I think if virtual/automated domination is your kink, it's your kink and you're entitled to it.

I also think that the more you enjoy and become dependent upon it for entertainment/enjoyment, the less likely you might get out and meet flesh and blood partners.

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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/29/2012 7:25:07 PM   
theRose4U


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Status: offline 		I just personally find zero appeal in long distance or remote domination. Its the sweat, the fear, the leather & feed back I do this for. As I told someone this week I can dominate a key board all by myself. Suppose for a sub male its more useful than porn even if it creates an un-realistic view of what submission entais or what to expect from a living breathing domme. I for one don't have the time in real life to check on you multiple times a day. Either you follow orders or you don't, but check 12 times a day to ensure you are complying?? Bull shit that's a sub taking over my life.

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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/29/2012 7:44:57 PM   
icarus020


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Status: offline 		I must admit, I agree on the long distance thing.

When my former Mistress was sent to work abroad for three years it was obvious that was the end of it. It sucked. There is absolutely nothing like kneeling at the feet of you Mistress, wearing her collar (that she has locked around you neck). That said, a better feeling was the satisfaction I got after serving a meal that I'd made from scratch for my Mistress...and know she enjoyed it!

As for unrealistic expectations, you name me one sub who has not had a dominant who has entered into their first D/s relationship and not had unrealistic expectations!

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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/29/2012 8:01:37 PM   
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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/29/2012 8:03:00 PM   
Baroana


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I'd compare it to having a blow up doll for a girlfriend.




I like that. I'm going to use it next time some dope asks me to "dom him online."

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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/29/2012 8:31:48 PM   
theRose4U


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ORIGINAL: Baroana


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I'd compare it to having a blow up doll for a girlfriend.




I like that. I'm going to use it next time some dope asks me to "dom him online."

Careful if he cyber bites you, you may be required to fart & fly out the window!!

For the OP you're in liverpool which I would think would at least have a monthly munch. I would imagine if you have a female willing to set up this program, that she has some involvement in the kink world??
My point is, its not like you are a slave at the north pole, there are opportunities for you to get out & touch real kinksters...why are you masterbating to a bossy computer?

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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/29/2012 8:34:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: icarus020
What do other people think of these things?

For Carol and I, the D/s exchange is a visceral thing at happens between two humans largely via non-verbal communication channels. So obviously she would find interaction with a non-human to be completely silent on that "channel". For myself, if I want to dominate someone then obviously I'm going to need to do the talking and non-talking my self.

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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/29/2012 10:46:49 PM   
icarus020


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ORIGINAL: theRose4U


quote:

ORIGINAL: Baroana


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I'd compare it to having a blow up doll for a girlfriend.




I like that. I'm going to use it next time some dope asks me to "dom him online."

Careful if he cyber bites you, you may be required to fart & fly out the window!!

For the OP you're in liverpool which I would think would at least have a monthly munch. I would imagine if you have a female willing to set up this program, that she has some involvement in the kink world??
My point is, its not like you are a slave at the north pole, there are opportunities for you to get out & touch real kinksters...why are you masterbating to a bossy computer?


Sub I may be, but I am beginning to get aggravated by the tone of your replies. Just because I'm a guy don't equate me with other people who you may have come across before.

As it happens I don't masterbate. Sex is actually not something that plays a large part in my life, and unless there is a really strong connection between a partner and I, frankly I don't see the point. People put far to much store in Sex for my liking, but I very much doubt that's believeable...after all every man on the net must just be looking for porn to jack off to right? Even if it's obvious there's a real person behind the profile, if the profile is that of a guy it must be worthless I suppose?

As for Liverpool, actually the nearest Munch I'm aware of is in Chester. Regardless, when you work 46 hours a week, are studying in the evenings an extra 15 hours...it really doesn't leave much spare time. My friend, well, she's trying to help in her way, but no, she's not into BDSM...and if she has a kink it's not been revealed to me. In fact the people I do know who are 'kinky' I have actually met through vanilla world. Local BDSM communities aren't the be all and end all and quite frankly, the only club I've been able to find is one in Birkenhead that is a swingers club that holds a monthly 'fetish' event.

As to the original question, it's interesting to me that such negativity has been shown here, but on another discussion board it's been received with some scratched heads and baffled curiousity.

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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/29/2012 11:00:42 PM   
descrite


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why are you masterbating[sic] to a bossy computer?



- Safe sex

- It will never introduce you to its parents

- It doesn't care if you've just been putting your flash stick in another computer

- It's useful all month long

- Flat fee

- The computer doesn't care when you cum

- The computer will wait patiently for you in the other room while you're playing video games

- Raw onions on a burger are just fine when you're meeting your computer later

- You can talk about your computer's sister all day and never get a nasty look



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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/30/2012 6:51:54 AM   
theRose4U


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quote:

ORIGINAL: descrite

quote:

why are you masterbating[sic] to a bossy computer?



- Safe sex

- It will never introduce you to its parents

- It doesn't care if you've just been putting your flash stick in another computer

- It's useful all month long

- Flat fee

- The computer doesn't care when you cum

- The computer will wait patiently for you in the other room while you're playing video games

- Raw onions on a burger are just fine when you're meeting your computer later

- You can talk about your computer's sister all day and never get a nasty look




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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/30/2012 7:32:03 AM   
Lucifyre


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quote:

ORIGINAL: icarus020

As for unrealistic expectations, you name me one sub who has not had a dominant who has entered into their first D/s relationship and not had unrealistic expectations!



*snickers and raises hand*

just sayin ;)

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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/30/2012 7:32:52 AM   
AthenaSurrenders


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Status: offline 		I totally can believe that sex isn't important to you and you don't masturbate.

I think people are expressing surprise at the fact that your chosen system has no human contact involved.

For me, the rush of submission comes from submitting to a person. Someone with whims, with opinions, with personality. I like knowing that what I am doing is pleasing to him. I like touch. I like love and intimate connection. So where are you getting those needs met with a computer program? The computer is just doing what lines of code instruct it to do. It doesn't care how well you do. To me, it seems pointless. Sex aside I do understand the blow up doll comparison - it seems to fulfill only one single aspect of the role of a dominant in the way a doll fulfills only one aspect of a girlfriend.

This isn't me being negative, just trying to explain why people are dubious of the concept. So tell us how this works for you. Do you feel more satisfied than you did before? What motivates you not to cheat? How would you feel if you failed at a task?

I can see this being a toy a dom and sub might use together once in a while. If Master said 'right I'm going out of town overnight, do as the computer tells you' I would do my best mental gymnastics and try to see it as obeying him by obeying this. I suppose what I'm getting at, is this: is part of the appeal that you feel you are actually indirectly submitting to your friend? Would it feel the same if you downloaded it and set your own punishments? Do you think you are actually investing in the fantasy of her as a domme rather the computer as a domme?

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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/30/2012 8:02:48 AM   
MAINEiacMISTRESS


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders

I totally can believe that sex isn't important to you and you don't masturbate.

I think people are expressing surprise at the fact that your chosen system has no human contact involved.

For me, the rush of submission comes from submitting to a person. Someone with whims, with opinions, with personality. I like knowing that what I am doing is pleasing to him. So where are you getting those needs met with a computer program?


Yes, I am wondering this too. I have had online subs in the past and still put the effort in to make it a very personal experience, but a computer doesn't have whims, opinions, and personality...or hormonal mood swings or bad days that a devoted sub can think up something clever to improve...and a computer can't compensate for those same issues in a sub's personality. All those little things will be lacking, so I too am curious how this will turn out.

---there should be a neglect penalty too...same as used to exist in those little "virtual pets" the kids had. If you weren't present to feed the thing it would die. Will your virtual Domme BLOCK you if you don't show up for scheduled sessions?

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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/30/2012 8:28:12 AM   
Lucylastic


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Just my two cents, If it works for you , go for it.
some poeple use time managers and are "dominated" by the clock.some people use alarms and alerts to schedule their day, their smoking cessation, their medication schedules. etc.
While it wouldnt work for me as a Domme... I dont see anything wrong with it, but then I am someone who is in a long distance, mostly online /phone/chat relationship. And had my sub use his smartphone to remind him of certain things, when I had to be offline for a few days.
Diffrent strokes for diffrent folks


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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/30/2012 8:54:45 AM   
SeekingTrinity


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Status: offline 		Im not really understanding why you are getting annoyed with the tone you perceive people have taken in their responses regarding this virtual domination computer program. Its obviously something that works for you, but it doesnt work for others. You asked for their opinion and seem to be getting an attitude because not everyone is on board with it. If its something that is working for you...more power to you. Its your life, its your kink, do it your way.

I personally dont see the point of virtual domination either. I dont derive anything from online domination as it is anyway, so the fact that I wouldnt be into a computer program doesnt really surprise me in the least. But thats just me.

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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/30/2012 9:45:46 AM   
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Then again I get nothing out of playing computer or video games and I like to know I'm talking to a real person and there's the possibility of meeting them in person. If it's just a computer program, why bother? I guess I've just never been that desperate to be dominated.


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RE: 'Virtual' and Computer Domination Programs - 11/30/2012 9:59:04 AM   
LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: icarus020


quote:

ORIGINAL: theRose4U


quote:

ORIGINAL: Baroana


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I'd compare it to having a blow up doll for a girlfriend.




I like that. I'm going to use it next time some dope asks me to "dom him online."

Careful if he cyber bites you, you may be required to fart & fly out the window!!

For the OP you're in liverpool which I would think would at least have a monthly munch. I would imagine if you have a female willing to set up this program, that she has some involvement in the kink world??
My point is, its not like you are a slave at the north pole, there are opportunities for you to get out & touch real kinksters...why are you masterbating to a bossy computer?


Sub I may be, but I am beginning to get aggravated by the tone of your replies. Just because I'm a guy don't equate me with other people who you may have come across before.

As it happens I don't masterbate. Sex is actually not something that plays a large part in my life, and unless there is a really strong connection between a partner and I, frankly I don't see the point. People put far to much store in Sex for my liking, but I very much doubt that's believeable...after all every man on the net must just be looking for porn to jack off to right? Even if it's obvious there's a real person behind the profile, if the profile is that of a guy it must be worthless I suppose?

As for Liverpool, actually the nearest Munch I'm aware of is in Chester. Regardless, when you work 46 hours a week, are studying in the evenings an extra 15 hours...it really doesn't leave much spare time. My friend, well, she's trying to help in her way, but no, she's not into BDSM...and if she has a kink it's not been revealed to me. In fact the people I do know who are 'kinky' I have actually met through vanilla world. Local BDSM communities aren't the be all and end all and quite frankly, the only club I've been able to find is one in Birkenhead that is a swingers club that holds a monthly 'fetish' event.

As to the original question, it's interesting to me that such negativity has been shown here, but on another discussion board it's been received with some scratched heads and baffled curiousity.
Since you didn't trim your quotes, OP, I'm leaving the whole thing for continuity. I'm the first response that was being addressed, so I wanted to comment on your remark.

The fact that you are getting curiosity from another discussion board may have something to do with the fact that the topic has already been discussed here and probably not there. We've had threads from various people on the subject for a couple of years, so it's not exactly a new concept to us.

Now, you may not have liked My comment, but you asked for opinions and that's what you got. Sorry, but any dynamic that's over if the power dies just doesn't equate to a real, live human being in your physical presence. It's akin to Me getting a furby and treating it like a real pet.



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