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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 5:26:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Except not, since the op is male and incapable of it.


Uh, no.

First off, it's quite possible for a man to chain orgasms together without drugs. By four, I usually cramp a lot (in the sense of "can't stop it"; cramping does happen earlier if I relax, instead of opposing it as is instinctive), and it's pretty rare that I try for more than three, because of the sensitivity thing, but I've gone for five recently. I suspect a sadistic top/dom could prolly get a malesub over the edge a few times after the pain puts you past breakeven for the guy. Secondly, if he pops a prolactin suppressant, such as cabergoline or amineptine, there usually won't be any refractory period, and sometimes no fatigue whatsoever. Third, if he has a higher baseline prolactin level for a while, the body desensitizes to it and responds a lot more like a female body in this regard.

So, with or without drugs, he may well be capable of it.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 5:35:05 PM   
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Just as lil wonder said, I can shut it completely off. It ain't gonna happen, period.

Ahem, I can tell you from personal experience, that ain't exactly true :-)


ahem.....I can..I just choose not to with you Sir.

I mean, what reason would I have to do so with you? I've only ever done it like I stated...when I didn't like the guy, was ill, medications, pissed off, etc....

Now once Master starts to make me orgasm and I get to the point where it starts to be extremely sensitive, then yeah, he can force orgasms from me because I'm lost by then in my own head and he's already got me going.

If any other man was to try that with me though, my experience has been that I just shut down from the very beginning. It doesn't get to that point.




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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 5:35:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BambiBoi

There have been a lot of responses to the orgasm side of forced orgasm. I am responding to the other side of the coin.

There is an interesting dichotomy compared to another "forced" kink: Forced femme. When a thread comes along about forced femme, people make a big distinction about whether the action is actually forced (non-consent) or whether its playful consensual resistance. The overwhelming response there is that "It's not really forced - you want it, you just want to switch the onus of control." Here, it seems that "force" is being used as "beyond the control of." I do not understand it to go as far as rape, but instead the top's ability to push you over the O-line when the bottom is trying either indifferent, or resistant.


To me, the key factor is that it's pushing past the place where I would, in a more egalitarian situation, choose to stop (i.e. after one or two good solid ones). When continued physical stimulation becomes at least as painful as it is pleasurable. When I have to be held or tied down, because I'm going to try to escape the overstimulation.

Or, you know, when I'm woken up in the middle of the night with my body halfway there and my mind panicking having no idea WTF is going on.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 5:44:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

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ORIGINAL: Kana

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Just as lil wonder said, I can shut it completely off. It ain't gonna happen, period.

Ahem, I can tell you from personal experience, that ain't exactly true :-)


ahem.....I can..I just choose not to with you Sir.


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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 5:48:40 PM   
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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 6:23:05 PM   
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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 6:38:11 PM   
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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/3/2012 8:37:49 PM   
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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/4/2012 12:03:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Orgasms can be prevented by trauma, ADHD, fibromyalgia, schizophrenia... They can also be prevented by the wrong sensory input (hence the stricter definition of fetish).

Hitachis can make a woman feel good the same way I sketch...you get a feeling going, but that doesn't make it a masterpiece.

(I know they work for some, just wanted to illustrate [sketch?] the point that they don't work for others.)


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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/4/2012 5:02:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SacredDepravity

I have had many physical, mental, emotional, and interpersonal situations result in orgasms that I really wish hadn't. Some REAL rape victims come away with added shame and confusion because an orgasm happened in the middle of one of the worst moments of their lives. At the very physical base, orgasm is nothing but the body's natural response to certain stimuli. Lots of other things can be wrapped up in an orgasm like attraction, emotions, physical comfort, and intimacy, but biology can trump them all. It's nature's way of making sure the species continues. We don't have to like it. I remember a long time ago studying about human reproduction and there being some evidence to suggest that female orgasm significantly improved the likelihood of pregnancy by basically placing the cervix directly in the pooling area for semen. Now, if it was ever disproved I have no idea, but it seems kinda logical I guess and would explain why biology would have this fail safe built in. Then again, it could just be pure horse hockey. I don't know. Regardless though, yes orgasm can be forced and no, it isn't as simple as Hitachi-ing someone to death. It takes just the right stimuli to do the job. And, yes, there is a such thing as too many orgasms. Pain and dehydration are very real possibilities.

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Very few women admit to orgasm through rape but if one understands what happens to a woman's brain during orgasm, then you can understand why a rape victim will sometimes orgasm.
Brain scans have shown that during a female orgasm, the cortex linked to consciousness closes down. That doesn't mean we are unconscious as we orgasm but it means we have shut out or deactivated things such as fear and emotions. If a woman can deactivate all of her emotions during rape and she may subconsciously do this as a survival strategy, then she could have an involuntary orgasm.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/4/2012 10:15:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		For me I enjoy it because after I've orgasmed enough times it's painful to stay aroused and hurts to cum.
So being forced to orgasm plays to my masochistic side.
And it might take a hell of a long time but I can be forced to orgasm even if I don't want to.
It's short and painful.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/4/2012 10:35:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

I just do not get this on so many levels. First off, any moron with an ac outlet anc hitachi can do it, so no skill, no connection, nada. And forced orgasm? Thats like forced sushi. I was talking with a friend who is open to some wild ass stuff...but that kink freaks her out.

Not really. I love sushi but after a certain point, my tummy's gonna ache from eating too much of it.

With the hitachi and a glass dildo going at the same time, things are gonna start aching after awhile (and not the good kind of ache). Add squirting into the mix (for those who do) and it's fucking exhausting after awhile, to the point of tears, slurred speech, and eventually lying there in a heap.

I'm thinking he likes me in that condition or he wouldn't do it. He likes knowing I'm not even enjoying it anymore, but he can make me continue. It's one of many ways he gets his groove on.

As for what BambiBoi said: "Its forced orgasm amid sexy time." - this isn't always the case. I've been downright pissed off at him and emotionally detached, not even wanting him to touch me. And he'll take his hands and work on me until my body does what my mind does not want it to do. Talk about feeling defeated and surrendered!

In any case, I'm not a fan. But he is, so there ya go.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/15/2012 4:41:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd actually like to weigh in on this one since I've had a forced orgasm. As part of a bargain I was not allowed to be given freedom during a sexual encounter even if I begged for it. I was new, naive, and stupid. I think I can say why the gentleman who posted the first post has a girlfriend who fears forced orgasms. During a sexual encounter I was given an orgasm. That wasn't much reason for panic and a good reason to celebrate. However, the gentleman in question wasn't nearly done. The fucking got harder and more intense. The orgasm continued on and on and began to develop an edge to it. I began to feel like I was going to lose consciousness. It was like getting a little heroin, then a little more, then a good amount, then a freaking load thinking "Oh shit if he don't stop I'm gonna die here". I begged to be let loose and that the O's were getting too intense. But he kept on nailing me anyway. Finally 20 minutes later he came. I collapsed unable to control my muscles from spazzing for a couple minutes. The whole time I felt like I was tripping and totally and DANGEROUSLY out of control. I know one other person whose had one. They DID pass out. I think that's why his girlfriend is disturbed. There is a disturbing loss of control if an orgasm becomes to powerfull and goes to long. I think too much "natural happy drug" can have the same effects as a drug overdose on the body and brain.

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/15/2012 4:45:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		seeing this thread just made me want to watch more forced orgasm porn. off i go!

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RE: Forced Orgasm? - 12/15/2012 6:53:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: absolutchocolat

can't force the willing!



No you can't! :)

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