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mnottertail -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 11:23:17 AM)

'I have not come to this pursuit'


Since you are pedantically and ineffectually now lecturing the English language, another among your many futile pursuits.......

You may attend a pursuit, you may be in pursuit, you may even chose not to pursue.

But the meaning of the words 'come to' and 'pursuit' do not lend themselves to being used that way in a sentence, not only is it euphonically damaging to the ear, it is plainly piss poor English, and wrong.




tazzygirl -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 11:24:38 AM)

LOL

I love it when they try and talk over everyone's heads... and get it wrong.




Edwynn -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 11:25:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

My point, you don't know.  You are an economist.  You are unable by dint of your lack of real knowledge to pedantically blowhole on any economic issue.  Prithee, what will make our economy flourish, growth rates (oh, I will give you some leeway here) of between 10-20% a year, and the meltdown, why didn't you see it?  (And I will hold you to your answer) Then tell me why nobody listens to this great and august bunch of maggots if they 'know' something?

If non-economists are children, economists are miasmatic shitbreathers.  Useless and unknowledgeable about the pedantics they masturbate on.


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Then tell me why nobody listens to this great and august bunch of maggots if they 'know' something?


It's not that nobody listened, it's that asswipe politicians, those you are so fond of, didn't listen.

John Paulson made $3.7 Billion off the affair. I think that it's safe to say that at least somebody listened.



This is like saying that if some asswipe bought a stock at over 156% of net asset value, or somebody voted for any politician, or somebody actually bought a CDO, then all are worth it, all is valid, because nobody would have done that otherwise.

There were more than a few economists, more than a few financial experts, more than a few none-of-the-above that were sounding the warning bells from 2004-05 onwards.

Nouriel Roubini warned about it, Andrew Smithers and others pointed out the serious over-valuation, Joseph Stiglitz warned about the asset bubble, Robert Shiller warned about it, all ringing bells loudly. Many more than that, but just off the top of my head.


Your crowd, the political crowd, had no use for what they were saying.

Sucks to be you, all I can say.

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Prithee, what will make our economy flourish, growth rates (oh, I will give you some leeway here) of between 10-20% a year,



Nothing will make this economy grow by that amount in any year, and you can quote me on that. The fastest growing emerging economies top out at ~ 11%, 7-9% otherwise.

Throwing people like you into the ditch (being as that there are so many drains on society such as yourself) might increase it by .05 to .5 % from wherever we are at the moment, though.


Sucks to be you, all I can say.







mnottertail -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 11:28:36 AM)

But all discourse is political.   You might look up the actual meaning of the word, it has only recently been cribbed to mean dealings in government as an institution.

You are speaking of the wizardry and horseshit of 'economists' on a political board.

Even politics is economy, it isn't about the flanders fields.




tazzygirl -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 11:37:56 AM)

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There were more than a few economists, more than a few financial experts, more than a few none-of-the-above that were sounding the warning bells from 2004-05 onwards.


And there were just as many of those groups saying everything was fine.




mnottertail -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 11:41:08 AM)

And since there were vast numbers of none of the above saying it, we should label ourselves economists, without having to take on the additional burden of politicos or the waste of pedantic puerile schooling in the obvious. 

Friedman(s) did, and they were all the rage.  Seems like you read Ayn Rand and you are a finacial fuckin wizard. 




Edwynn -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 11:46:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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There were more than a few economists, more than a few financial experts, more than a few none-of-the-above that were sounding the warning bells from 2004-05 onwards.


And there were just as many of those groups saying everything was fine.



And they were paid handsomely for saying so.

Lloyd Blankfein and Goldman were doing "God's work," don't you know.




tazzygirl -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 11:47:30 AM)

I have never picked up one of her books.




mnottertail -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 11:49:05 AM)

Then you are not a republican, nor an economist.

There be small miracles pervading us constantly.




Edwynn -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 11:50:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

And since there were vast numbers of none of the above saying it, we should label ourselves economists, without having to take on the additional burden of politicos or the waste of pedantic puerile schooling in the obvious. 

Friedman(s) did, and they were all the rage.  Seems like you read Ayn Rand and you are a finacial fuckin wizard. 


Do not mistake your one-to-one dead-on understanding and fanatical commisseration with von Mises as my having any consideration whatsoever for "rape me, now!" Rand.

You can twist, you can slide, but you're still in that mental shit-trough, Clyde.





tazzygirl -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 11:50:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwynn


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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There were more than a few economists, more than a few financial experts, more than a few none-of-the-above that were sounding the warning bells from 2004-05 onwards.


And there were just as many of those groups saying everything was fine.



And they were paid handsomely for saying so.

Lloyd Blankfein and Goldman were doing "God's work," don't you know.


My point is... those who were supposed to be watching the economy were only watching their own wallets... on both sides of the fence. To insist some are to blame, while holding others up as gods, is pretty stupid. And when you find one that is always supporting one side over the other... take it with a grain of salt... and a money counter.




Edwynn -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 12:01:40 PM)


I didn't realize that bringing to attention those that knew what they were talking about constituted "holding them up as gods."

My point, and the point of those more knowledgeable on the subject than I, is that politics swamped everything else, and now we are suffering the consequences.

The media have done their job well, and so now we are in the midst of a blame-the-victim party.

Please, don't attend.




tazzygirl -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 12:03:33 PM)

I blame them all. Poluticians, economists, statisticians, watch dog groups.... the whole kit and kabooble.




mnottertail -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 12:06:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

And since there were vast numbers of none of the above saying it, we should label ourselves economists, without having to take on the additional burden of politicos or the waste of pedantic puerile schooling in the obvious. 

Friedman(s) did, and they were all the rage.  Seems like you read Ayn Rand and you are a finacial fuckin wizard. 


Do not mistake your one-to-one dead-on understanding and fanatical commisseration with von Mises as my having any consideration whatsoever for "rape me, now!" Rand.

You can twist, you can slide, but you're still in that mental shit-trough, Clyde.




Having demonstrated overwhelmingly, your inability to pour piss out of a boot, and my never having read Von Mises, would make you the world champion felcher, Von Felcher.




PeonForHer -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 12:06:38 PM)

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kabooble


Caboodle.




mnottertail -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 12:07:42 PM)

codswallow.





Edwynn -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 12:08:29 PM)


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I blame them all. Poluticians, economists, statisticians, watch dog groups.... the whole kit and kabooble.



And that perpetuates the problem.

The knowledgeable spoke, the politicians ignored, and so now you blame everybody.

As said, the media have done their job well.




mnottertail -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 12:09:54 PM)

No one has blamed the knowledgeable. 




tazzygirl -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 12:09:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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kabooble


Caboodle.


Ah, the spelling police [;)]




mnottertail -> RE: Professors and their politics (12/7/2012 12:14:53 PM)

That is a word that he would spell that way, since it has a meaningful etymology in English.


The still call knapsacks kits in the military.

So it is kit and caboodle to him.

a caboodle is an alliteration of boodle, which we have further alliterated to booty.

It means 'the lot' which the English use more than caboodle (why is that?  I am asking the whole bloody lot of you), or a group of people particularly if you are an NCO.  LOL.   




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