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doctorgrey -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 2:22:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

Now if I can get my mind around how many cups are in an ounce.





... ounces in a cup

DrG



needlesandpins -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 2:33:42 PM)

1 cup = 8.32oz there abouts.

needles



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 2:40:17 PM)

Isn't a 'cup' a measure of volume rather than mass needles??


CP: You might like to try this website for 'cup' conversions -
http://www.miketodd.net/encyc/cooking.htm



needlesandpins -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 3:26:56 PM)

google told me. i have no idea as i use scales, not cups.

needles



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 3:31:00 PM)

Scales won't tell you how much 8 fluid ounces weighs! lol.
It depends on what the thing is you're trying to measure.

8floz of water doesn't weigh the same as flour or cream or... well, anything.
No two things will be the same weight (I should say, 'mass') for an identical volume.



needlesandpins -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 3:41:21 PM)

erm, actually all volume has a weight, so who cares. CP can work it her own way to best suit her.

a pint of water, or juice weights a lb so 8flo weights about 7oz ish

needles



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 3:51:31 PM)

But you are comparing liquids of very similar density so they will weigh approximately the same weight.

Ok, so what about a pint of....
Flour,
Lead,
Brick dust,
Egg whites,
Chopped peanuts,
Desicated coconut,
....

For the same volume these will have a vastly different weight. [:D]
And that will definitely spoil any recipe she's following.



doctorgrey -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 3:59:09 PM)

so work in freakin volume!

DrG



DesFIP -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 4:28:15 PM)

I have never baked anything that included lead or brick dust.

The volume system developed during the Colonial Era when colonists couldn't afford scales. If you're living in the wilderness, trying to hack out a farm, you couldn't afford to buy them when they were brought all the way from England. The one thing every farm wife did have was a tea cup and a tea spoon. So that's what they used. And the original cupcakes were measured with cups and baked in cups as well. Info courtesy of Alton Brown.

Three generations later probably the settlers could have had scales but by then the recipes handed down were done in cups and tea spoons.

In addition, home bakers get accustomed to judging by consistency. Does it look the same as the last time I made it?

I have to imagine that you weight measurement users do that also, or if you're making a shepherd's pie do you weigh the leftover lamb and not make it if you're ten grams shy?



dcnovice -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 4:35:36 PM)

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The volume system developed during the Colonial Era when colonists couldn't afford scales. If you're living in the wilderness, trying to hack out a farm, you couldn't afford to buy them when they were brought all the way from England. The one thing every farm wife did have was a tea cup and a tea spoon. So that's what they used. And the original cupcakes were measured with cups and baked in cups as well. Info courtesy of Alton Brown.

Fascinating info, thanks!

I've always wondered how they figured out what temperature the fire/oven was at for baking.



OsideGirl -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 4:36:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

Scales won't tell you how much 8 fluid ounces weighs! lol.
It depends on what the thing is you're trying to measure.

8floz of water doesn't weigh the same as flour or cream or... well, anything.
No two things will be the same weight (I should say, 'mass') for an identical volume.




Actually water is the one thing where 8 fluid ounces equals 8 ounces in weight.



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 4:53:49 PM)

True for water (distilled water, that is); but not for anything else.

A cup of dessicated cocnut is much lighter than a cup of double cream or treacle for instance.
To say it's 8 ounces is a tad foolish - even as a wild guess.

And most modern recipes in the UK and Europe, except USA, don't use 'cup' as a measure any more when a weight is required rather than a measure of volume. lol.



TieMeInKnottss -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 5:03:14 PM)

I do Ciopino for Christmas Eve, The Feast of the Seven Fishs. I am Spanish, not Italian but I think some Catholic practices just carry over.



JstAnotherSub -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 5:16:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

True for water (distilled water, that is); but not for anything else.

A cup of dessicated cocnut is much lighter than a cup of double cream or treacle for instance.
To say it's 8 ounces is a tad foolish - even as a wild guess.

And most modern recipes in the UK and Europe, except USA, don't use 'cup' as a measure any more when a weight is required rather than a measure of volume. lol.


While weight is the most accurate way to measure for cooking, there are separate measuring devices for liquid and solid cups, pints, etc. They do produce the desired result when following a recipe.

Metric also has measures for liquid, mass, volume, etc, so I would suggest CP convert the metric to the measurements she is used to, and cook away.

She should also send me samples, so I can give my professional opinion on her culinary skills!!



freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 5:24:44 PM)

If I or my OH just relied on using what amounts to 8oz is the same as 8floz for measurement, a lot of what we cook when we try a new recipe would just be a complete dismal failure.

As my parents (and school teachers) always taught me - always use the right tools for the job.
1 cup is 1 cup, or it's imperial/metric equivalent, never 8oz.



JstAnotherSub -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 5:37:23 PM)

Well, just bless your heart.



kallisto -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 6:14:40 PM)

This year I've had fun making things. I went to the flea markets and found beautiful teacups and have made teacup candles for the girls in my office (and I'm not a candle maker). There's 4 of us that get together every year and I've made sugar scrubs for them. As for cooking .. I won't really get started until my daughter comes home closer to Christmas, but we usually do sausage balls (to have Christmas morning), roasted salted pecans, cookies, haystacks, flavored oyster crackers ... enough of the snacky stuff so my boys have plenty to take home with them for the next week. As for Christmas dinner ... we'll figure it out over the next week or so. [:)]



lmpishlilhellcat -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/8/2012 6:15:37 PM)

I seem to have a large amount of holiday parties this year. Three of them alone are work related potluck parties. So this year I am trying out some new recipes and at least one old one. Last year for Christmas my mom and I made treat buckets for the family. We as a whole family decided to skip the gift giving. As part of that we made these chocolate truffles and they were absolutely amazing and decadent. I am going to try my hand at baklava bars for one of my Christmas parties at work. I'm hoping they will be successful.



Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/9/2012 11:13:16 AM)

Sometimes I do but largely no.



OsideGirl -> RE: Holiday Arts, Crafts & Baking (12/9/2012 11:19:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lmpishlilhellcat

Three of them alone are work related potluck parties.


My standard go to for pot lucks is Crock Pot White Chocolate Cranberry bread pudding. It takes about 1.5 - 2 hours to cook and you don't have to worry about it being warm or hover over it while it cooks.



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