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Kana -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/9/2012 5:57:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Its become the epidemic of the younger generations.

Fuck that-it's the epidemic of almost all generations. Call it Oprah syndrome.
It's the corrosion of the Western soul.
Ain't nobody responsible for nuthing.
It's all someone else's fault. They weren't potty trained right. Or daddy yelled at them once. Or they didn't get enough attention as a kid, or that Ferrari for their Sweet Sixteen.
Fucking cultural Relativism.
Waaaah.
Me? I like that Eagles line:
"Bitch about your problems
Blame em on you past.
I'd like to find your inner child
And kick his little ass."



stellauk -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/9/2012 6:38:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Its become the epidemic of the younger generations.


I know, but is it really all that surprising? We wiped out stuff like youth culture and replaced it with a kind of a rat race through education to become first graduates then wage slaves and happy little consumers. Half of the younger generations' lives are virtual reality because we the older generations offered them no better.

Then we - the older generations - take the piss out of them because they can't do the stuff we could, and we get all morally indignant and angry when they don't behave like we expect.

Forty or so years ago the voice of protest of the young was stuff like Hendrix ;playing an impromtu rendition of the Star Spangled Banner loaded with references to Vietnam.

And like it or not, today it's a 19 year old girl stealing a car, robbing a bank and posting about it on Youtube. It's irresponsible, it's criminal even, but to me it's just another expression of protest like Hendrix's 'Star Spangled Banner all those years ago.

That's why I'm not prepared to dismiss it as either insipid or vapid or write it off as mental illness. To do so would be to respond with the same irresponsibility.

We're older, shouldn't we know better?



tazzygirl -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/9/2012 7:20:29 PM)

Yet her medical diagnoses speak directly to her mental illness.



littlewonder -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/9/2012 11:44:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kana

Me? I like that Eagles line:
"Bitch about your problems
Blame em on you past.
I'd like to find your inner child
And kick his little ass."


aaahhh....one of my favorite song lines. [;)]




slvemike4u -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/10/2012 10:50:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

She struck me as someone who wants to take absolutely no responsibility for her actions. Its always someone else's fault.

I'm still going with vapid and insipid.
She is "empty" and she is,at least to me"uninteresting"(yeah I might post here on the subject,but believe me when I walk away from this laptop) this little twit isn't on my radar.
Someone said life threatening disease,correct me if I'm wrong but no one need die from aids any more,do they?
Certainly a life altering disease,in that you now must take numerous medicines and you should be altering your behaviors vis a vis sexual contact and the like
But you have no expectation of impending death,do you?
Now I know someone is going to come along and tell me that aids sufferers will indeed die of aids....but a teen diagnosed with aids has a life expectancy,given that heor she does as he/she is supposed to of just how long ?
Certainly years and years longer than someone diagnosed with leukemia ,no?



tazzygirl -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/10/2012 10:57:18 AM)

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Someone said life threatening disease,correct me if I'm wrong but no one need die from aids any more,do they?


Many still do die. Lack of insurance for medications, noncompliance where they just dont take their meds (as with this girl).... Magic is still going strong after 22 years since his announcement. No one NEED die from HIV.

HIV is the virus... AIDS.. to put it bluntly, is the result. AIDS is the resulting damage to the body that HIV does when unchecked.



LadyPact -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/10/2012 11:14:16 AM)

It's not new. It's just escalating. I hate to make generalizations, but young adults show people their entire lives through the net. She probably got high and thought it would be funny to brag. I don't think she really gave any thought to the consequences. Either that or she's become depressed and messed up to the point where she's got something of a death wish and/or just not give a damn how her life plays out.



absolutchocolat -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/10/2012 11:23:33 AM)

i'm with LP, this isn't new...just different. i'm sure some loose screws in older generation did crazy things; they just didn't have the ability to brag on facebook about it afterwards.

i was watching some crime show yesterday, and a pair of 20-something blondes from georgia robbed a bank wearing only designer shades as a disguise, then went shopping. i think they were called "The Barbie Bandits." they were caught a few hours later...had a ton of new stuff, weed, ecstasy pills, and a copy of the ransom note in the car. i laughed my ass off. i think it's darwinism at work.



tazzygirl -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/10/2012 11:30:26 AM)

One got two years in prison, 8 years probation. The other has 10 years probation. Guess their stripper days are over with.



kalikshama -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/10/2012 1:51:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: obeyxmilla

This story was slightly amusing until I saw this: http://starcasm.net/archives/185533

Seems like a case of seriously neglected mental illness.


Just read that. God, how grim. It may be a bit of a Tory streak in me, but I can't help experiencing a strong hunch that a decent father figure, particularly, is somehow *seriously* lacking in this girl's life.


I was sad to read what she wrote at 12 weeks pregnant (and HIV positive.) I couldn't tell if her husband was the baby's father.

i’m usually so depressed cuz my life sucks so bad, don’t disagree because if you lived what i lived through, i guarantee you’d be traumatized; but anyway, i actually skipped down the road when i sent my letter to my husband in jail! skipped! and i only looked down at the ground a couple times to make sure there was no ice i’d slip on.

i am so lucky to have a loving husband that will literally do anything for me and who practically worships the ground i walk on—i don’t know why, i’m not that great, lol

Read more at http://starcasm.net/archives/185533#t48KYXlRyUS4pfRX.99




PeonForHer -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/10/2012 2:11:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
I'm still going with vapid and insipid.


[:D]

Then we'll have to agree to differ - and strongly, as well.



PeonForHer -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/10/2012 2:15:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Either that or she's become depressed and messed up to the point where she's got something of a death wish and/or just not give a damn how her life plays out.



That'd be roughly my take on it.



slvemike4u -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/10/2012 5:56:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Someone said life threatening disease,correct me if I'm wrong but no one need die from aids any more,do they?


Many still do die. Lack of insurance for medications, noncompliance where they just dont take their meds (as with this girl).... Magic is still going strong after 22 years since his announcement. No one NEED die from HIV.

HIV is the virus... AIDS.. to put it bluntly, is the result. AIDS is the resulting damage to the body that HIV does when unchecked.

Full disclosure Tazzy,I popped off that last post prior to running out the door...and on reflection,it absolutely shows.
A childhood friend is living with the disease(haven't spoken to him in years,but still) and I know the correct way for me to have said that is exactly how you said it.
No one NEED die from HIV
I fucked up,my apologies [&o]



slvemike4u -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/10/2012 6:02:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Either that or she's become depressed and messed up to the point where she's got something of a death wish and/or just not give a damn how her life plays out.



That'd be roughly my take on it.


And you have some actual interest in this.....
Yes ...we will have to agree to disagree,and strongly.
Or maybe I'm just being a hump about the whole thing [8|]



stellauk -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/10/2012 6:08:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

It's not new. It's just escalating. I hate to make generalizations, but young adults show people their entire lives through the net. She probably got high and thought it would be funny to brag. I don't think she really gave any thought to the consequences. Either that or she's become depressed and messed up to the point where she's got something of a death wish and/or just not give a damn how her life plays out.



Thank you LadyP.. for putting it across better than I did.

I'm not prepared just to dismiss this because of mental illness or stupidity, because lots of people can be mentally ill or stupid and they don't do stuff like this.

To me she was making a statement - it was as if to say 'Here look at me, this is how I feel'. I believe that when someone does something this extreme - and it is extreme, by anyone's standards - you have to pause for a moment and look for a plausible answer to the question 'why'.

This is what can happen when you give kids multimedia and don't inspire them to much more than getting an education and going off towards wage enslavement.

I strongly feel we need to invest much more in culture, particularly among the younger generation, and provide them with opportunities for occupation and to develop their creativity. We have the technology, with a computer, the right software and equipment an investment of say $200 any young person should be able to come up with a music album, a gallery of photos, or even a feature film.

If we inspired them to be creative and taught them the skills and techniques to make something of their creativity I feel it would give the younger generation opportunities to develop a better sense of identity and a much more positive outlook towards life.

Children and young people are our future, we can't expect any more from them than what we gave them ourselves. When we invest in them and give them opportunities we are investing in the future growth and evolution of our culture and society.



Moonhead -> RE: Teen Chick robs bank (12/12/2012 4:56:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: stellauk
I strongly feel we need to invest much more in culture, particularly among the younger generation, and provide them with opportunities for occupation and to develop their creativity. We have the technology, with a computer, the right software and equipment an investment of say $200 any young person should be able to come up with a music album, a gallery of photos, or even a feature film.

If we inspired them to be creative and taught them the skills and techniques to make something of their creativity I feel it would give the younger generation opportunities to develop a better sense of identity and a much more positive outlook towards life.

Children and young people are our future, we can't expect any more from them than what we gave them ourselves. When we invest in them and give them opportunities we are investing in the future growth and evolution of our culture and society.

Of course, the steadily increasing banalisation and intellectual impoverishment of mass media culture leaves the guardians of society's dreams and visions pretty rabidly opposed to any such measures being taken, I'd suspect. If any teen chavling with a laptop knows that they can make a better album than whatever attention seeking talentless fuckwit with a voice like a goose being fisted by Rondo Hatton won this year's X Factor, for little or no money, then that could start harming record sales, couldn't it?



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