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RE: Democrats - 6/19/2006 1:01:08 PM   
mcbride


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quote:

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the...(blah, blah) ...tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!


Actually, nothing in that entire rant is true, but as the poster says, uninformed citizens will believe it.

Here's a useful link. http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/001941.php

It's also good to attribute what one didn't write.

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RE: Democrats - 6/19/2006 1:34:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mcbride

quote:

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the...(blah, blah) ...tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!


Actually, nothing in that entire rant is true, but as the poster says, uninformed citizens will believe it.

Here's a useful link. http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/001941.php

It's also good to attribute what one didn't write.



Interesting...
Actually it was part of the rest of the 534 emails received while on vacation. It sited no source and this being in the humor section, I didn't do any research. I thank you for providing a source for the opposing viewpoint.

President Bush is more than making up for any action detrimental to illegal aliens. Any historical attempt, or actual influence, by his party precluding payments to illegal aliens pales in comparison to his current policy regarding this issue.

Like most you read on-line believe either side of any point only after you've verified the sources personally.

Now if you can find any source that represents an opinion with a factual basis that says that anyone under the age of 30 will ever see a dollar of SS money I'd be interested in that. It's a bankrupt system of government welfare that has become a sacred cow for both parties whose teats are sucked greedily by the older and voting constituency. When people fight against a movement to be able to put their hard earned money in a public fund versus giving it to the government in hopes you'll get some of it back, you know that the label of "uninformed" is well deserved.

But again, thanks for you reference. However, as it says in the body of the link you site: Don't believe everything you read, without at least looking for some kind of reasonable source. (emphasis added)

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RE: Democrats - 6/19/2006 9:22:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary,

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual incomes into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year,

4.) That the money the participants put into the independent "Trust Fund" rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and,

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to "put away," you may be interested in the following:
--------------------Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent "Trust" fund and put it into the General fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

--------------------Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.
-------------------- Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

 A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the "tie-breaking" deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US.

------------------- Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

-------------------
Then, after doing all this lying and thieving and violation of the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!
And the worst part about it is, uninformed citizens believe it!


Come on Merc... these are old words from old urban legends  spam e-mails sent out which were as falsely stated as your 'word for word' post here.  Talk about uninformed!  Here's the source which contains the thoughts you just posted verbatim, as well as the actual truth which refutes most/all of it.  Do take a look. 

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/sschanges.asp

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RE: Democrats - 6/19/2006 10:33:50 PM   
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I'm neither a registered democrat or a registered republican.  I vote for the person I feel is likely to do the better job.

The day persons ascribing to either party cannot joke about themselves, or take a joke about their party, is the day they need to turn off the tv, the computer, the radio, put down their reading material and go find something constructive to do that will take their mind off their personal self-righteousness.

Maybe sign up for a lobotomy or something.

These were jokes...not an invitation for the "I'm right and you're wrong, let me bash you over the head with it" spiel.

Damn.

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RE: Democrats - 6/20/2006 3:31:57 AM   
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I'm a Democrat, and proud of it!

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RE: Democrats - 6/20/2006 3:39:00 AM   
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was a republican..then a democrat --now an Independent, but liked the Dems were far more of a tolerant group than the reps.

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RE: Democrats - 7/6/2006 12:48:49 PM   
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Bush is an idiot that started a war for no other reason then to get saddam because he threatened his daddy. Not because of weapons not because of 9/11 and not to fight terrorism. We have lost soooo many soldiers and will continue to lose more and more just so bush could carry out his own agenda. Not to mention all the iraqi civillians we have killed and how we have torn apart their country for no good reason once so ever. And what about 9/11?? We were attacked on our own soil, americans were killed.....what have we done about that?? What consequences did the attackers get and the organizers?? Nothing....bush used it as an excuse to start a war while the real people we should have gone after suffered no consequnces once so ever. And never will......makes me sick to even think about it.

**end rant**

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RE: Democrats - 7/6/2006 8:47:06 PM   
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Bill Clinton was jogging on a beach when he saw a very cute little girl carrying a big cardboard box.  He stopped and and asked her what was in the box.

"Puppies." said the little girl.

"What kind of puppies are they?" Clinton asked.

"They're Democrats." replied the little girl.

The next day, he went jogging on the same beach with Hillary and saw the same little girl.  He told Hillary she just had to hear this and stopped.

"What do you have in the box, little girl?" he asked.

"Puppies." answered the little girl.

"What kind of puppies are they?" he inquired.

"They're Republicans." said the little girl.

"Wait a minute." Clinton said, "Yesterday, when I asked you what kind of puppies they were, you said they were democrats."

"That's true." said the little girl. "But last night, they opened their eyes."

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RE: Democrats - 7/6/2006 8:56:20 PM   
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A man is in an antique store in San Fransisco when he sees on a shelf a brass rat.  He's very intrigued by it and goes to the store's owner.

"How much for the brass rat?" he asks.

"Ten bucks for the rat," replies the owner, "and a hundred bucks for the story."

The guy hands the owner ten bucks, saying, "I'll take the rat.  You can keep the story."

He starts walking off down the street, carrying the rat, and he notices a sound behind him.  He looks back and sees a couple of rats seem to be following him.  He starts walking a little faster.  A few minutes later, he looks back and sees there are now several hundred rats following him.  He walks even faster.  Looking back, he sees thousands of rats following him.  He starts running.

He runs down to the bay, stops and looks back.  Every rat in the city is following him.  He throws the brass rat as far as he can out into the bay.  All the real rats jump into the bay after it and drown.

The next day, he goes back into the antique shop.  The owner looks at him and smiles.

"Want to buy the story now?" he asks.

"No," says the man.  "I came to see if by any chance you have a brass Republican."

< Message edited by HarryVanWinkle -- 7/6/2006 8:57:35 PM >

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RE: Democrats - 7/7/2006 4:36:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sub03

Bush is an idiot that started a war for no other reason then to get saddam because he threatened his daddy. Not because of weapons not because of 9/11 and not to fight terrorism. We have lost soooo many soldiers and will continue to lose more and more just so bush could carry out his own agenda. Not to mention all the iraqi civillians we have killed and how we have torn apart their country for no good reason once so ever. And what about 9/11?? We were attacked on our own soil, americans were killed.....what have we done about that?? What consequences did the attackers get and the organizers?? Nothing....bush used it as an excuse to start a war while the real people we should have gone after suffered no consequnces once so ever. And never will......makes me sick to even think about it.

**end rant**


The above post fits wonderfully in a humor section, it made me laugh. No humor in the laugh, but we take what we can get I suppose......
 
And Harry, great pair of jokes . I enjoyed them both.

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RE: Democrats - 7/8/2006 1:16:05 PM   
Kedikat


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary,

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual incomes into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year,

4.) That the money the participants put into the independent "Trust Fund" rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and,

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to "put away," you may be interested in the following:
--------------------Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent "Trust" fund and put it into the General fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

--------------------Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.
-------------------- Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

 A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the "tie-breaking" deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US.

------------------- Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

-------------------
Then, after doing all this lying and thieving and violation of the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!
And the worst part about it is, uninformed citizens believe it!


Of course when the opposite party gets into power, they never change back the horrible things the previous party did. They just take advantage of it, while doing their own shitty things.

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RE: Democrats - 7/10/2006 8:09:43 PM   
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you guys, quit it.... No matter who is elected, Someone will have a problem with it.... oh, and ArtimisBlack, hunny, you do know that a president only has 4 years in office (usually)...  you couldn't give me all the money in the world to be president... and people pick on Bush b/c he isn't smart... excuse me, but i think he is very bright... just because he has trouble speaking some times... maybe he is like dyslexic or something.... you know?? (that makes no sence, so don't comment on that part! lol)

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RE: Democrats - 7/11/2006 1:25:30 PM   
irishbynature


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressLorelei

Now, now... the Dems aren't so dumb. Afterall, we didn't vote an idiot into the White House.

<goes off to whine like a puppy.... 2 more years... 2 more years.... 2 more years...>


High fives on that one! (am counting the days and mumbling under my breath, "Impeach, impeach..."



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