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thetammyjo -> RE: 128 rules of slavery? (6/17/2006 1:08:23 PM)
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ORIGINAL: xsolitairex
I've never understood Gor fully. Yet, I'm not about to sit here and make fun of what they believe in. SOME of the rules here are...different but not too far fetched in my mind because they give you the less "romantic" view some seem to have in reference to slavery. I am very much a realist and can not base my day to day life on fiction. That is what I don't understand. How can you do that?
I do not feel there is anything wrong with a list of rules for a group. You read the rules, learn their ways, and if you want to join or be apart of it, you follow them. If what you uncover does not appeal to you, you do not follow and find something that does.
Solitaire
In case this is an actual reply to what I wrote and not to the OP just after you read my post, I am replying to you, xsolitairex.
If the post I quote above wasn't really a response to me, then ignore the below if you like (as if I could make anyone read what I read).
I think lists like the one in the OP is FICTION.
Goddess knows that I am a huge fan of fiction but that isn't real life or meatlife. The OP asked for commentary on them, I did.
Meatlife Ds and Ms does not function on a list of rules, especially not ones as long as this.
Meatlife Ds and Ms develop from the rules the dominant desires, the training the dominant and submissive are willing to do, tempered by their unique relationship, and hammered at by mundane realities.
A list may sound lovely and fulfill a fantasy, it may even provide you with things to consider, but I do not believe copying someone else's rules/protocols/positions/whatever will be a successful way to live for very long.
As the D or M you must have your rules, protocols, ideals inside of you where can know them, train them, and enforce them without fail. Anything less is not being consistant and I think consistancy helps build trust and stability.
Telling someone "follow these rules to be a good slave" isn't a strong foundation. Training someone, living with them, doing Ds, that is building a foundation that may last for years or a lifetime. Any one thinking that memorizing lists of rules will make him a good slave is very likely to fail because it isn't so much words as it is attitude and actions that make a good slave (or a good owner).
Or to put it another way, the words on the page are meaningless until both D/M and s can live them and feel them and know them at their deepest levels.
As for group rules, which the OP list is not, of course if you do not like a group's rule, don't go to that group. If you are all ready a member of a group which wants to create rules you don't agree with you have a right to make the opposing argument and sway others to your side if you can; doesn't work, you may need to leave that group.
I personally think lists like these can be good examples but too often they get pushed as the only way to do something.
If I wanted the only way to do something, I'd join a cult.
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