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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 3:35:07 PM   
needlesandpins


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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 3:43:26 PM   
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i don't really care. i'm sick of seeings guys who never post in here doing so only to whinge that no-one wants to fuck them.

needles


I'm not whinging, I'm just making an observation. If you read my profile, which you haven't. The last thing I want is to be tied to a woman.

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 3:55:15 PM   
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If you deconstruct most profiles of so called subs on collarme, they are not so much interested in BDSM as in capturing a man. I suspect the same is true of the men (though I haven't read any profiles to deconstruct), they want a woman more than they want to experience BDSM.


No, actually most of the men here think that because it's BDSM the women fuck every guy that expresses interest, will blindly follow any order regardless of dangerous or stupid and lack any moral fiber at all.


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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 3:59:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: IgorsHand


If you deconstruct most profiles of so called subs on collarme, they are not so much interested in BDSM as in capturing a man. I suspect the same is true of the men (though I haven't read any profiles to deconstruct), they want a woman more than they want to experience BDSM.


No, actually most of the men here think that because it's BDSM the women fuck every guy that expresses interest, will blindly follow any order regardless of dangerous or stupid and lack any moral fiber at all.



I suspect if most men think that, which I doubt they do, they are quickly disabused of the idea and realise that if they really want a woman, the internet is not the best place to start looking and they'd be better off visiting the local nightlife.

BTW A man would need a very long cock indeed to fuck the women on here considering they're spread half way across the world.

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 4:13:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: IgorsHand

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ORIGINAL: IgorsHand


If you deconstruct most profiles of so called subs on collarme, they are not so much interested in BDSM as in capturing a man. I suspect the same is true of the men (though I haven't read any profiles to deconstruct), they want a woman more than they want to experience BDSM.


No, actually most of the men here think that because it's BDSM the women fuck every guy that expresses interest, will blindly follow any order regardless of dangerous or stupid and lack any moral fiber at all.



I suspect if most men think that, which I doubt they do, they are quickly disabused of the idea and realise that if they really want a woman, the internet is not the best place to start looking and they'd be better off visiting the local nightlife.

BTW A man would need a very long cock indeed to fuck the women on here considering they're spread half way across the world.


actually i was talking about the op.

and in that vain.....what i highlighted above....you are wrong. the op is proof of that, along with every other whinging i-can't-get-laid guy on here. they get turned down, or no responce and then come in here to complain.

the reason they arn't in the nightclubs is because they can't get laid there either. which is why they came here thinking that loose women fuck anything with a pulse.

only we don't.

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 4:16:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: IgorsHand

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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

i don't really care. i'm sick of seeings guys who never post in here doing so only to whinge that no-one wants to fuck them.

needles


I'm not whinging, I'm just making an observation. If you read my profile, which you haven't. The last thing I want is to be tied to a woman.


I wish you good luck in your search for a submissive woman who will make absolutely no demands on you. Apparently even conversation. Because 99.9% of women want more than a fuck and spank. They require a relationship. Even booty calls require pleasantries. After all, being civil would be a tie to a woman.

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 4:20:19 PM   
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and in that vain.....what i highlighted above....you are wrong. the op is proof of that, along with every other whinging i-can't-get-laid guy on here. they get turned down, or no responce and then come in here to complain.

the reason they arn't in the nightclubs is because they can't get laid there either. which is why they came here thinking that loose women fuck anything with a pulse.



One anecdote or specimen proves nothing but I would challenge you to deconstruct a few profiles and you will find most people want a partner, rather than experiencing BDSM.

As for the local meatmarket, if one can't get laid there, one can't get laid at all. I'm down the road to the person who posted the OP and if he can't get laid in Den Haag, he can't get laid at all. If all I wanted was to get laid, I certainly wouldn't be on the internet and if all I wanted was BDSM, I would go to the local meatmarket and introduce BDSM to someone vanilla.

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 4:24:36 PM   
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I wish you good luck in your search for a submissive woman who will make absolutely no demands on you. Apparently even conversation. Because 99.9% of women want more than a fuck and spank. They require a relationship. Even booty calls require pleasantries. After all, being civil would be a tie to a woman.


I'm not looking for a woman to fuck or spank, in fact I'm not looking for a woman at all. If I wanted female company I would go to my local bar where I am well acquainted with most women who frequent there and several who have posed for me in the past, simply because they were curious to see themselves in an art gallery.

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 4:26:36 PM   
needlesandpins


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Status: offline 		i don't care about what other people want because i have what i want. i'm not looking for anything so won't be deconstructing anyone else's profile. if i were looking i'd most likely block the op. who the hell has the time to prat about deconstructing profiles? if i were looking then i'd want to read a profile that is to the point and doesn't make the guy look like a twat before he's started anything else.

your profile is your shop window. display yourself well, or people walk on by.

eta....btw, he isn't the first to whinge in here. we get several a week. it's very old, very boring news already.

needles

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 4:29:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: IgorsHand

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: IgorsHand


If you deconstruct most profiles of so called subs on collarme, they are not so much interested in BDSM as in capturing a man. I suspect the same is true of the men (though I haven't read any profiles to deconstruct), they want a woman more than they want to experience BDSM.


No, actually most of the men here think that because it's BDSM the women fuck every guy that expresses interest, will blindly follow any order regardless of dangerous or stupid and lack any moral fiber at all.



I suspect if most men think that, which I doubt they do, they are quickly disabused of the idea and realise that if they really want a woman, the internet is not the best place to start looking and they'd be better off visiting the local nightlife.

BTW A man would need a very long cock indeed to fuck the women on here considering they're spread half way across the world.


The OPs profile proves my point.


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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 4:33:31 PM   
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I think Dutch women and probably many other women too, mix up fantasy with reality. They think they want to be submissive because they have submissive fantasies but when it comes to the reality, they don't really like what it really means.

'Oh my god, he wants to bend me over and spank my butt until it glows in the dark,while hanging enough clips, grips, chains and shackles on me until I look like a christmas tree and then he wants to fuck me in both holes and share me with his mates like a common slut.' 
 
'Er... yes, that's what you've asked for on your profile.'


quote:

If you deconstruct most profiles of so called subs on collarme, they are not so much interested in BDSM as in capturing a man. I suspect the same is true of the men (though I haven't read any profiles to deconstruct), they want a woman more than they want to experience BDSM.


quote:

I'm not whinging, I'm just making an observation. If you read my profile, which you haven't. The last thing I want is to be tied to a woman.


I would thank you to not place everyone inside your own narrow box.

There are plenty of women here looking for a strict BDSM relationship. It may not be your definition of one.

There are many who want nothing more than to serve.

There are many who want relationships.

And there are many who want that slap and fuck.

What do the majority of all those women have in common? (note I didnt say all)

To find a man who captures her mind.

If someone cant get fucked/laid/used/ect.... its not the market.... its that person.

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 4:39:26 PM   
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I would thank you to not place everyone inside your own narrow box.

There are plenty of women here looking for a strict BDSM relationship. It may not be your definition of one.

There are many who want nothing more than to serve.

There are many who want relationships.

And there are many who want that slap and fuck.

What do the majority of all those women have in common? (note I didnt say all)

To find a man who captures her mind.

If someone cant get fucked/laid/used/ect.... its not the market.... its that person.


I think meatcleaver got it about right and I quote: Most dutch submissives are the same as most other submissives on collarme, they are very picky and aren't really here for BDSM but to capture a man they can incarcerate in domesticity. I always laugh at profiles, I am submissive but don't mess with me boy! I think the reality is, they have submissive fantasies the same as the majority of women have but most women realise they are dealing with a fantasy and take it no further, there is a minority who know they want the fantasy for real and dive right in, then there are those who do the submissive dance, one foot in, one foot out, in out in out shake your buttt about. The latter are the worst, they do a man's head in because you don't know where you are with them.
 
I think I said that if someone can't get laid its the person but your knickers are obviously too tight for you to pay attention to what you are reading. I said if the OP couldn't get laid at the local meatmarket, he can't get laid at all. Implying he was the problem.

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 4:42:38 PM   
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The term BDSM was coined as a condensed acronym in the 1990s to combine communities and practices that had a significant amount of crossover – bondage and discipline (B&D or B/D), dominance and submission (D&S or D/s), and sadomasochism or sadism and masochism (S&M or S/M).

I think many have forgotten this.

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 4:45:34 PM   
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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 4:47:59 PM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		I am very much against the "one true way" that many mistake for the correct meaning of this lifestyle. Just because it doesnt fit your definition doesnt make it any less valid. Your definitions only count within the context of your relationships, not mine, nor anyone elses.

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 5:10:39 PM   
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Is there any dutch submissive female looking for a male Dome that is not fake or not just playing games or is not just submissive in her fantasies? Take a look: most are members for years and years. And still not able to find a Dome? Do you believe it?


I don't believe it.

Do you believe it?

It's just too damned bizzare!

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 6:42:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nelsondd:"Is there any dutch submissive female looking for a male Dome that is not fake or not just playing games or is not just submissive in her fantasies? Take a look: most are members for years and years. And still not able to find a Dome? Do you believe it?"
i can't speak all of them, but even if they have been here for years they may not all have been here actively, or maybe they just haven't found someone that they click with yet. the same way that you see people that are still single etc. that doesn't necesarily make them fake. but this is still the internet so you will see fakes all around, wether they are dutch or not.

meatcleaver: "Living in Holland for usually four months a year, Dutch women are very demanding while insisting they are liberal. Despite reputation, Holland isn't a liberal country, it is a conservative country with pragmatic liberal laws. Dutch women are like their country.

And Ja, ik spreek en verstand nederlands en begrijp de profile van de nederlands subs. Toen was ik getrouwd met een nederlandse vrouw. "
as a dutch woman, i don't find dutch women to be much more demanding than dutch men, although i've noticed that in comparison to other countries they might ask more from their partners than ladies elsewhere. putting them all in a group the way you described is a bit much though, in my opinion, and i can assure you there are dutch women that are genuine in their desire, that want to fully dive in to their submissive nature.

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 9:18:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not only are the Dutch womensubs fake, but I don't think the story about the little Dutch boy sticking his finger in the dike is true either. The entire country is rife with mendacity.

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/11/2012 11:55:43 PM   
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Not only are the Dutch womensubs fake, but I don't think the story about the little Dutch boy sticking his finger in the dike is true either. The entire country is rife with mendacity.


The story about a little Dutch boy with his finger in the dam is not a Dutch story but an English one.

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RE: all dutch submissives are fake? - 12/12/2012 5:43:30 AM   
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i don't really care. i'm sick of seeings guys who never post in here doing so only to whinge that no-one wants to fuck them.

needles

...Which pretty much GUARANTEES none of us would fuck them even with someone elses vagina!!!

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