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SimplyMichael -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 9:04:40 PM)

Its more now but we used to buy 3~5 BILLION rounds of just .22 ammo a year in this country.

Good luck confiscating it.

a very liberal vegan girlfiend of.mine is Jewish, she lost family to the Nazis. I helped her bury more than a few .22 rifles and 500 rounds of ammo because "never agaim" is closer to some people than others.

I am a die hard liberal too

Banning guns to end violence is a pipe dream.



adx -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 9:05:50 PM)

they dont have my information nothing ties me to the purchase. if you use a card of some kind you could be linked. I only use cash for everything I buy except for gas. I dont like cards.



slvemike4u -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 9:10:37 PM)

Responsible law abiding gun owners


I rest my case



jlf1961 -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 9:15:30 PM)

Okay, I am stupid, I dont like to carry a lot of cash in my wallet, I use a card.

Of course I had a visit from the ATF last year, I purchased 7000 pounds of ammonia nitrate fertilizer for a friend of mine, and 500 gallons of diesel. It seems I was flagged because I did not have the proper paper work on file, my friend did, but his wife had left and froze his accounts for divorce proceedings, including the ranch account.



adx -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 9:19:36 PM)

yea not everyone feels safe enough to carry cash around.



tazzygirl -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 9:32:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

The flu you cant prevent, can you?

Can you prevent who gets their hands on a gun?

Not always, but with a hell of a lot better accuracy than the flu.


So you as much as called me a wing nut, i read your source and find you screwd up and now you talk about flue being incurable?

Current vacine is almost 100% effective, those deaths are because so few people bother to get the vacine resulting in mass deaths of children and seniors.




100% huh?

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According to the CDC, the flu vaccine reduces the odds of getting the flu by 70% to 90%.

You may wonder why there's such a wide range. And in fact, it's even wider than it seems: that statistic only applies to healthy adults. It turns out that the effectiveness of the flu vaccine depends on a number of different factors. Here's a rundown of what they are.


http://www.webmd.com/vaccines/how-effective-is-flu-vaccine

Btw, I said tin foil sites.... seen lots of em. If I thought you were a nutter, I would come out and say so. I certainly do not bite my textual tongue.



jlf1961 -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 9:34:53 PM)

Actually when I have cash I tend to spend more, which is the opposite of most people I guess.

And I will admit I have made a few bulk purchases of ammo, just never thought about it being common. In point of fact I have about 9000 rounds of various calibers now, split between home and a cabin I have. The ammo there is well secured.



SimplyMichael -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 10:04:35 PM)

Sorry, you dont have the intellext or education to grasp what you are reading.

Without googling, do you know how many strains the current vacine counters? Do you know the major reason for the wildly fluctuating variance from year to year. Do you.know if this years vacine has a low or high rate?

I do, in the context of this discussion, what i posted was correct. We are having a debate over a handful.of tragic deaths while ignoring things we could do to save TENS of thousands.




tazzygirl -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 10:08:44 PM)

I also know what I am talking about. There is no 100% full proof vaccine. You are talking out your ass here.

Treating the mentally ill could save Tens of thousands of lives a year alone.. all by its lonesome. That still wont take away the problem with guns that are taken from law abiding citizens who are irresponsible in how they secure them.

And you have YET to show where I once said to ban all guns outright. In fact, I have yet to mention banning any gun at all. If you can find a place that will allow you to store it and use it, I dont care what you purchase.



jlf1961 -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 10:12:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I also know what I am talking about. There is no 100% full proof vaccine. You are talking out your ass here.

Treating the mentally ill could save Tens of thousands of lives a year alone.. all by its lonesome. That still wont take away the problem with guns that are taken from law abiding citizens who are irresponsible in how they secure them.

And you have YET to show where I once said to ban all guns outright. In fact, I have yet to mention banning any gun at all. If you can find a place that will allow you to store it and use it, I dont care what you purchase.



I never said you wanted to ban guns out right, I just improperly use the "You anti gun ____"

I just posted in another thread the perfect wording to get the weapons you want from continuing to hit the streets, it even covers the 900 weapon that were declared exempt from the last ban.

Read it and see what you think. Sorry it wont cover what is already in public hands, but that was the best I could do.



SimplyMichael -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 10:18:07 PM)

You avoided the question because you dont know shit.

This years vacine hits all three major strains, something they rarely achieve.

Thus why i said ALMOST...100%.

And considering we are talking about the potential to save.lives even 50% exceeds all the gun deaths which include crazy people shot by cops and citizens. Now i didnt fact check that, it might be 69.369782 or some other number but the POINT remains valid.




jlf1961 -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 10:22:02 PM)

Can I ask a question and someone fucking answer me?

Okay, I will agree to an assault weapon ban. Hell I even posted to mike how to word the damn thing to keep every semi automatic weapon that could do what was done in Newton Ct from happening again. Then I gave the wording that would keep the ones in the pipeline from hitting the market..

Say you get it.

Now what the fuck are you going to about all the guns in the hands of street and drug gangs that kill 30000 people a year?



tazzygirl -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 10:25:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

You avoided the question because you dont know shit.

This years vacine hits all three major strains, something they rarely achieve.

Thus why i said ALMOST...100%.

And considering we are talking about the potential to save.lives even 50% exceeds all the gun deaths which include crazy people shot by cops and citizens. Now i didnt fact check that, it might be 69.369782 or some other number but the POINT remains valid.




Typical. Get proven wrong by a woman and you are reduced to name calling and insults.



SimplyMichael -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 10:32:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Can I ask a question and someone fucking answer me?

Okay, I will agree to an assault weapon ban. Hell I even posted to mike how to word the damn thing to keep every semi automatic weapon that could do what was done in Newton Ct from happening again. Then I gave the wording that would keep the ones in the pipeline from hitting the market..

Say you get it.

Now what the fuck are you going to about all the guns in the hands of street and drug gangs that kill 30000 people a year?


Assault weapons are only used by movie gangs...not,real ones.



SimplyMichael -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 10:33:29 PM)

You proved nothing, you just cant grasp why you are wrong



tazzygirl -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 10:37:58 PM)

Im not wrong.... lol



jlf1961 -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 10:44:37 PM)

What does flu shots have to do with gun facts?



tazzygirl -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 10:46:31 PM)

Not a damn thing. Dont look at me, I didnt introduce it into the discussion.



jlf1961 -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 10:55:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Not a damn thing. Dont look at me, I didnt introduce it into the discussion.


I did not say you did.

Tazzy. I will find the wording I posted. You dont just want assault rifles, the definition is too vague, you want all the weapons with those capabilities.



slvemike4u -> RE: Gun facts (12/17/2012 10:59:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

You proved nothing, you just cant grasp why you are wrong

And you are having issues remaining civil...sort of the tip of the iceberg though....lol,look doen the ice under your feet is getting thin....lol.



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