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ORIGINAL: subspaceseven

This is a quote from the article, the whole story is in the link. Concealed carry can be a problem, and I think this is just the tip of the iceberg...

"A Florida man defended his decision to shoot an impatient pizza customer over the weekend, citing the state’s infamous “Stand Your Ground” law.

Michael Jock, a 52-year-old resident of St. Petersburg, was standing in line behind 49-year-old Randall White at a local Little Caesars on Sunday when Jock grew angry over White’s complaints about the speed of service. The two began to shove one another, prompting Jock to pull out a .38 Taurus Ultralight Special Revolver that had been concealed on his person and fire twice, hitting White both times in the lower torso."


The police did not accept the stand your ground law and arrested the man. However there should be more responsibility placed on a person if they decided to conceal carry, if self defense is warranted, fine the law worked, but when there is not a real life threatening risk the person who uses the conceal carry weapon should have a higher standard and face a higher penalty.

If a licensed driver hits someone who is not driving, the greater responsibility lands on the person in the car. Why should the person who is allowed to conceal carry not be held to a higher standard when the weapon is used illegally?

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/12/19/1360511/michael-jock-shooter/

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ORIGINAL: subspaceseven
This is a quote from the article, the whole story is in the link. Concealed carry can be a problem, and I think this is just the tip of the iceberg...
"A Florida man defended his decision to shoot an impatient pizza customer over the weekend, citing the state’s infamous “Stand Your Ground” law.
Michael Jock, a 52-year-old resident of St. Petersburg, was standing in line behind 49-year-old Randall White at a local Little Caesars on Sunday when Jock grew angry over White’s complaints about the speed of service. The two began to shove one another, prompting Jock to pull out a .38 Taurus Ultralight Special Revolver that had been concealed on his person and fire twice, hitting White both times in the lower torso."
The police did not accept the stand your ground law and arrested the man. However there should be more responsibility placed on a person if they decided to conceal carry, if self defense is warranted, fine the law worked, but when there is not a real life threatening risk the person who uses the conceal carry weapon should have a higher standard and face a higher penalty.
If a licensed driver hits someone who is not driving, the greater responsibility lands on the person in the car. Why should the person who is allowed to conceal carry not be held to a higher standard when the weapon is used illegally?
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/12/19/1360511/michael-jock-shooter/

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ORIGINAL: erieangel

The fact that so many people are being shot in FL for no more than standing in line, having their music too loud or walking through a neighborhood, says the SYG law is ridiculous. But of course, you don't see a problem with it.

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ORIGINAL: erieangel

The fact that so many people are being shot in FL for no more than standing in line, having their music too loud or walking through a neighborhood, says the SYG law is ridiculous. But of course, you don't see a problem with it.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: erieangel

The fact that so many people are being shot in FL for no more than standing in line, having their music too loud or walking through a neighborhood, says the SYG law is ridiculous. But of course, you don't see a problem with it.

In FL, these incidents vastly predate stand your ground. I lived there for 18 years. I've seen people shot at for making a left turn too slowly. I then called the cops with the license number and the description of the shooter and they're like "Dafuq ya want us to do about it?"

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ORIGINAL: erieangel
The fact that so many people are being shot in FL for no more than standing in line, having their music too loud or walking through a neighborhood, says the SYG law is ridiculous. But of course, you don't see a problem with it.

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver


They ought to call the stand your ground law, the Dirty Harry law because it is as stupid as an Hollywood film and the legislator must be as simplistic as Hollywood script writers.

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ORIGINAL: erieangel
I stand corrected.
SYG just seems, to me anyway, to give more people more excuses to shoot first and ask questions later.

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This assclown is claiming SYG as a defense. The cops probably had a damn good laugh about that. If he's successful with this defense, then there may be some validity to your gripes. If he's not successful using it, apparently, there wasn't anything wrong with the law.