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Master96 -> Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 6:52:52 AM)

Dear slaves and submissives,

The nature of D/s lifestyle tells us that the slave cares for one thing… her/his owner’s pleasure and satisfaction.

On the other hand, me as a Dom wants to show my appreciation to my slave, I enjoy using her as I want, and to tease her and torture her… but from time to time I want to treat her as a Lady…for example taking her to a fancy restaurant on dinner… I love her, she is giving so much to me… she do anything to me.. (Still I want her to call me Sir and to know her place)

Don’t get me wrong… I’m not a switch, and I don’t submit... with all my respect to male-subs and Dommes.

My question is, does that make me a less dominate from the submissive perspective? (Like in the vanilla relationship… when a woman disrespects a man when he wears her pantyhose… she looks at him as a less masculine.)

Thanks,
Master,



Level -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 7:22:17 AM)

You would have to ask her if it makes you less dominant in her eyes *smiles*.... but for what it's worth, my answer to your question would be "no". Nothing un-dominant about loving and doing caring things for your submissive.



sabswife -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 7:22:22 AM)

absolutely not, my Dom opens doors for me, pulls out my chair, etc.  He treats me like a lady and it is an expectation that i will wait for Him to do these things or He gets angry with me.  if there is a man out there more masculine than my Dom i think i would be shocked to meet them.

how is it less masculine to appreciate your sub or slave and treat them nicely?  if anything its only going to make them that much more devoted to you in my opinion.



cuddleheart50 -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 7:22:26 AM)

My question is, does that make me a less dominate from the submissive perspective?

Nope, not in my eyes. 



Master96 -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 7:27:12 AM)

Thank you everyone...



spankmepink11 -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 7:46:02 AM)

Good for You Master96,  it doesn't mean You are  less dominant in the least.  In my opinion such treatment encourages and enhances a  submissives level of devotion.



hizgeorgiapeach -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 8:21:24 AM)

Less masculine?  Less dominant??  Ummmmmm.... what have you been doing, listening to the twits who think  you have to be a complete jerk and absolutely self absorbed or you aren't "dominant enough"????
 
I fully EXPECT my dominant to treat me like a lady, to show me as much affection and respect as I show him, and to remain a Gentleman.  This is not a one way street, and if he doesn't treat me well I get unhappy.  If I get unhappy, he starts finding that I'm neither obedient nor subservient to his will.  There are times and places for everything, and if he wants to grab me by the hair and toss me to the bed or his feet while we're at home, or spank me until my butt is the shade of a coke can, then that's a great place for the caveman routine.  Out in public, I expect him to show  pride in and care for me - and to let those around us see that he has that pride in having me at his side.  If he is incapable of showing pride in me being with him, then I probably don't really want to be with him - in public, OR in private.



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 8:49:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Master96
The nature of D/s lifestyle tells us that the slave cares for one thing… her/his owner’s pleasure and satisfaction.

Slaves care about a lot of things.  They care about their owners pleasure as primary priority though.
quote:


My question is, does that make me a less dominate from the submissive perspective? (Like in the vanilla relationship… when a woman disrespects a man when he wears her pantyhose… she looks at him as a less masculine.)

Thanks,
Master,

Many will, many will not.

Many subs want someone who will act like a dandy/gentleman AND act like a savage, depending on how it suits their fantasies.

Many subs also have a very hard time ACCEPTING help and gentleness from others, they have a very difficult time letting go of controlling their own pleasure- telling them to be passive and simply accept the pleasure you give them.

But be yourself, it's the only way to make it work in the long term.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_380311/mpage_2/key_gentleman%252Cdom/tm.htm#384513
dom vs gentleman

http://www.collarchat.com/m_266268/mpage_1/key_gentleman%252Cdom/tm.htm#266288
the gentleman dom with feelings

"chivalry"

Is the term gentleman dom an oxymoron?

Gentlemen vs nice guy



apoeticsong -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 9:36:53 AM)

My Dom does open doors for me, carts in the groceries, and even helps me do the dishes, and takes me out on lavish dates.
I have seen him cry, laugh, and dance like no one is looking.
Personally, I think you need a good vanilla base, for if you can't make vanilla work, you certainly can't make D/s work.
I love how He cherishes me and pampers me, as I cherish and pamper him right back.
Now wearing her panty hose, there are CD Tops, rare as they are, that one would depend on what she thinks.
simply song



LaMspeach -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 10:45:26 AM)

I have to agree with what has been said so far. It doesnt make him look less Dominante or Masculine. If anything it make him look  more Dominante and Masculine because he is doing what he wants. It also makes me strive to be a better slave. In my eyes a slave/sub that is cared for will go the extra mile.



aleshaDreams -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 11:25:19 AM)

Reply to the OP:

Putting everything aside, it is still the man that we connect with ... how he treats us, values us, behaviour in public, respect for us, ect.  I personally find a man/Dom is more masculine when they portray more of the the old school deamenor taught by society of treating a lady as a lady with politeness and elequence.  And, I am far more prone to soften my 2100 century mistrust with someone that conducts themselves as a gentleman regardless of their role as Dominant or not.  I don't believe being Dominant has to do with being a controlling sob, but a mastering of oneself in all aspects of life.

It isn't fickle and makes him no less dominant, it makes him more of one 'in my mind' and it is what i desire in my partner.



littleone35 -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 1:17:27 PM)

My Master treats me like a lady but that does not make me any less his sub and it does not make him less of a man in my eyes. we both know who i belong to.  Just because a man treat his sub nicely does not make him any less a master.

Matt's littleone



bandit25 -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 1:22:43 PM)

I can't imagine how it would.  I know we are all different and, perhaps, want somewhat different things, but I cannot see how anyone would think that common courtesy or showing someone affection makes the person less "domly".



Master96 -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 1:33:16 PM)

oh.. thanks guys, i enjoyed reading your replies.



HisTicia -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 2:22:23 PM)

HECK NO!!
 
I love that my Sir can be that way with me..that He can be open like that..and show me how much he loves, cares, and appreciates me. 
 
My Sir doesn't need His ego stroked by being in His so-called "role" all of the time.  We have our "places" and we both know them.  We don't either one needed it pounded in our heads time after time to make sure we don't forget who is who.  I love and respect Him.. I know that I am His.. and I love Him all the more..for letting me know how treasured I am.  I am a slave.. and I always know who is in control..but I am also a woman..and kinda like to be be pampered and romanced once in a while.
 
Keep at it.. I can't see she wouldn't like it..but.. then again.. I am not her..and we are all different.. so can't really answer for her.  If I were a bettting chick though.. I would bet prettty good on this one.
 
~Ticia



lisa1978 -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 2:31:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Master96


The nature of D/s lifestyle tells us that the slave cares for one thing… her/his owner’s pleasure and satisfaction.



First, a slaves main concern and focus is their owners needs and desires. Not our only care. We are human beings and have plenty of other cares, needs and desires. We are complex people just like dominants.

Second, being loving, generous, courteous and kind are great traits to have as a human being and dominants that have those traits are winners in my book. Being mean and/or thinking a slave needs to be treated "slave like" at all times is more fantasy fodder. The two things can mix easily.



kickinchick -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 3:36:27 PM)

Get a life!
Fastlane treats me as his submissive, only because I have not earned the right to be his slave. Hopefully, I will. In the mean time...besides the beat and eat...he treats me like a lady, a friend and a independent individual. I would have it no other way. Submission is a gift, not to be taken for granted and Dominance is knowing "how too."
Giggles



Littlepita -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 3:41:03 PM)

My Dom treats me incredible. He is thoughtful, kind and respectful. He always wants to know my opinion and takes what I say seriously. He is wonderful and he is totally Dom. [:)]



Master96 -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/18/2006 11:31:33 PM)

Dear lisa… I apologize to everyone to be shorthand in my description of subs and slaves.

I agree with everyone that a Dom should treat his sub/slave as a Lady; for the reason that she is before being a BDSM life stylist she is a woman and a human being.

Thank you everyone for your time in replying to my question.

Master,



shivvy -> RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! (6/19/2006 12:01:37 AM)

my MAIN concern is for my daughters welfare, and then Masters, but these this were agreed before He collared me[:D]
 
But no, i don't see how doing something nice for me makes Him less of my Master. Just like everything else He does and says, it just makes me luv Him more[:)]



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