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myotherself -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 3:38:54 AM)

I pretty much agree with you Plesto.

I have seen a couple of rants that were kinda funny over the years, but not many. And it still made me feel a little uncomfortable about the author - if such a relatively minor thing bothers him enough to write about it (even tongue-in-cheek), then do I really want that kind of person to control my world?




naughtynick81 -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 4:11:57 AM)

With things said like this...

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Sorry, but femdommes do get the worst of the pickings around here. I hate to put down malesubs but ya know....have you seen what's around? It's not too optimistic


And in another thread on the ask a mistress forum a while ago, a domme claimed 95 percent or so of male subs are bad. Then plenty of others backed her up when I clashed with her. It's amazing how no one ever says it's the woman's fault, she is the one that needs to change when she thinks most males are [insert something bad here]. But when a male claims most women are bad one way or the other, nearly everyone is so quick to say that it is him that needs to change, it is all his fault.

Gotta larf!

No wonder why some males such as myself are bitter.




plesto -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 5:27:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

With things said like this...

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Sorry, but femdommes do get the worst of the pickings around here. I hate to put down malesubs but ya know....have you seen what's around? It's not too optimistic


And in another thread on the ask a mistress forum a while ago, a domme claimed 95 percent or so of male subs are bad. Then plenty of others backed her up when I clashed with her. It's amazing how no one ever says it's the woman's fault, she is the one that needs to change when she thinks most males are [insert something bad here]. But when a male claims most women are bad one way or the other, nearly everyone is so quick to say that it is him that needs to change, it is all his fault.

Gotta larf!

No wonder why some males such as myself are bitter.


Go look at the male sub profiles on here then come back and say that more than 5% consist of more than just kink or a few lines saying nothing. Sometimes I think they exaggerate, but then I remind myself by making a quick check like that.





thishereboi -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 5:44:59 AM)

I agree on the self control part. That is why I am glad when Dommes are honest about their emotions in their profiles. It's a time saver for me because I don't have to waste my time with them. I also like that you can read their forum posts and see what they have said in the past. Something Nick might want to think about.




naughtynick81 -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 5:46:21 AM)

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Something Nick might want to think about.


It's something that only men should worry about lolz




thishereboi -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 6:06:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

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Something Nick might want to think about.


It's something that only men should worry about lolz


Women who post bs all the time have just as much chance as being labled an idiot because of it as men do. A quick look at their previous posts will tell a person a lot about them. Just like a quick look through your past posts tell me a lot about you. The fact that you seem to think this only applies to men also tells me a lot about you.




hardbodysub -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 9:59:15 AM)

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Sorry, but femdommes do get the worst of the pickings around here. I hate to put down malesubs but ya know....have you seen what's around? It's not too optimistic.

Umm, have you seen what's around from the other side of the fence? Neither side can really claim the high road here. And I do concur with the OP that it seems pretty silly for people to rant on their profile about the idiots who contact them without reading the profile. The idiots never see it, and those who do read it are turned off.




AllisonWilder -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 11:57:47 AM)

I think a little ranting is acceptable from time to time in a journal entry. Now, I'm not talking the 'Boo-hoo everyone here is fake' kind of rant, but it's unrealistic to expect that every journal entry be free of a little negative emotion. We're all human, after all.

With all that said, I've made a couple posts that are probably not becoming of me, but it's my journal to post in as I please and at the time of those postings that's what I wanted to say, so I said it.




JeffBC -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 1:42:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81
A point I want to make is that hardly anyone calls these women whiners or cry babies.

Uh... MsClaudiaG might disagree with you since I called her on the carpet pretty firmly not a few days ago for exactly this. You might be interested to know that her response to that was, "Thank you." -- and a very sincere one at that.

Pretty much when a woman complains, there are no ramifications, their social status will never be tarnished.
OK, I'm going to let my arrogance show here. Do you really believe that women are somehow excluded from the laws of reality? Nick... I am a premium pick. I know that by the frequency I get comments like, "Do you have a brother?" or "Can we clone you?" Women say that to me regularly... online and in real life. And you know what? The women you are talking about will NEVER get me or anyone like me. They doom themselves to... well... people who'll put up with it. And any male who's a good pick doesn't need to put up with it. Any male with any self-respect wouldn't put up with it. That's just harsh reality and boobs doesn't allow one to escape it. The hot bodies get their pick from of candidates yes... but only of the candidates that will deal with them at all... and that's not me if they are whiny and constantly complain about men.

It's amazing how nearly everywhere you look, women left, right, and center in their profiles and journals have these kinds of rants and this is all given a social pass. If men appear negative and ranty in their profiles, they are social outcast.
I have tried to say this to you in several ways and on several threads. I'll try again here. But before I do, let me redirect it to everyone. This is, by my assessment, a law of reality.

You make your own world. The energy that you bring with you both selects for who chooses to engage with you and also changes anyone who does... for better or worse.

Women contact me all the time on this site. Every single one has been a well-balanced, rational, "nice" human being (OK, perhaps near every single one... 98% or so). We don't always agree but it's seldom that I dislike them or they dislike me after the exchange. I strongly suspect the reason for that is my own presentation.

Karma is real Nick... not necessarily in a mystical sense but in a pragmatic one it is absolutely true and I can explain the actual mechanics of why it works that way... if you want down to the actual biological plumbing level. I do my best to make a bubble of positive, happy energy around me. That bubble draws people who are attracted to positive, upbeat energy so that's who I meet. When I meet someone who's more depressed they feed off of some of my happiness and get less depressed. If they're too much of a basket case I jettison them from my life. So there's a self-selection process on the inbound side and an actual modification during, and a personal pruning process on my part. All of these things conspire to give me different experiences than you.

And again... while I spoke to Nick directly there my belief is those comments apply to every single human on the face of the planet. It doesn't matter whether you are male or female, dom or sub.




SomethingCatchy -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 3:20:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

Thanks for making this thread.

A point I want to make is that hardly anyone calls these women whiners or cry babies. Pretty much when a woman complains, there are no ramifications, their social status will never be tarnished. On the other hand when a male complains, he gets told to man up and stop complaining or do something about it. It's all his fault, end of story. His social status in this site will most definitely be tarnished.

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I just looked at the 87,000th Dominant woman's profile I've seen in which the journal, and often the "about me" section, rages on and on about the "fakes and flakes"


Just an hour or so ago in another thread I was going to mention something very similar like this in regards of this argument I was having.

It's amazing how nearly everywhere you look, women left, right, and center in their profiles and journals have these kinds of rants and this is all given a social pass. If men appear negative and ranty in their profiles, they are social outcast.



If you don't like it, stop complaining about it and CHANGE it. Stop buying into 'traditional gender roles', stop buying into stereotypes, start treating the men in your life with respect and compassion. The main reason men get told to man up? BECAUSE OTHER MEN ARE SAYING IT.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 5:15:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

I've long believed that one of the most important characteristics of a dominant is self control. If she can't control herself, ride herd at least on her emotions, she's probably dangerous. I just looked at the 87,000th Dominant woman's profile I've seen in which the journal, and often the "about me" section, rages on and on about the "fakes and flakes" who don't bother to read their profiles completely before writing to them and rail on and on about all the other shortcomings of of the vast majority of men who write them. They are especially incensed by wankers.

I realize that dozens of emails a day from Wankers can get pretty frustrating. But, isn't frustration one of those destructive emotions which a Dominant person should be able to keep under control?

As Jesus said, "Wankers you will have with you always." What good does it do to rail on in your profile and journal against men who don't read your profiles and journals before writing their little, jack off notes. You're preaching, or should I say, screeching to the Choir; throwing tantrums at those who won't read your tantrums, thus giving the impression that you are an angry, out of control woman. Meanwhile, the wankers pay no attention to your rants, because they don't read that far.

Ladies, any of you who have been on this site for any length of time knows how many wankers there are here, and know that as you list yourselves as Women, that you're going to draw them like moths to a flame. What use are the angry outbursts which accomplish nothing? Wouldn't it be far better to put something near the end of your profile, saying something like, "For the first word of your email to me, write, 'Rumplestiltskin.'" Or something equally unlikely. Such a system would make it easy for you to separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak, quickly.


Jesus said that?

(Gawd....I need a new copy).




HarryVanWinkle -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 5:47:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Hi Harry. Good to see you again. I had noticed you post on another thread and had wanted to say it was nice to see you posting, but I didn't want to be off topic when the thread itself didn't interest Me much. [:)]

I get what you are driving at about anger and the 'Master yourself before you can Master another' thought process. However, that theory doesn't mean that people never have an emotion or need an outlet for emotions. Mastering oneself doesn't mean that a person never gets angry, frustrated, or sad. Being Dominant doesn't equate to being devoid of emotions or never expressing them. The latter is actually rather unhealthy.

Of course, if all a person demonstrates is anger, that might be an excellent way to know who you would like to avoid.



Lady Pact. It's nice to see you too. I wasn't talking about the occasional outburst, but of those profiles and journals which are nothing but outburst. Good point about those demonstrations of nothing but anger being an excellent way to know whom to avoid. But can none of those women understand that their constant rants about being contacted by "fakes and flakes" become self fulfilling prophecy? Anybody serious who does try to read through their profiles reacts with "another one of these," and clicks out of it.




focalss -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 8:05:16 PM)

This is to all the lonely people.

Maybe it makes them angry.




LadyPact -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 10:33:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle
Lady Pact. It's nice to see you too. I wasn't talking about the occasional outburst, but of those profiles and journals which are nothing but outburst. Good point about those demonstrations of nothing but anger being an excellent way to know whom to avoid. But can none of those women understand that their constant rants about being contacted by "fakes and flakes" become self fulfilling prophecy? Anybody serious who does try to read through their profiles reacts with "another one of these," and clicks out of it.
If negative is all a person writes about, who could blame anyone for running to the hills? What a terrible first impression!

I have to wonder though, does everything being positive have a similar effect? Does it substantiate the myth that Dominant women don't have the full range of emotions?





RemoteUser -> RE: Why the anger? (12/31/2012 10:42:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

If negative is all a person writes about, who could blame anyone for running to the hills? What a terrible first impression!

I have to wonder though, does everything being positive have a similar effect? Does it substantiate the myth that Dominant women don't have the full range of emotions?


My journal is silly, romantic, and upbeat in pretty much any way you care to imagine. I make an entry nearly every day, and usually make up for days missed. Even devoted to my girl, that kind of positive outlook has caused several people to glance my way, and some send a CMail comment. (Only two people subscribe to it, though.)

I'm not a woman but I am a Dominant, and regardless even of that, I can assure you, positivity makes its own rewards.




metamorfosis -> RE: Why the anger? (1/1/2013 2:53:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle
I've long believed that one of the most important characteristics of a dominant is self control. If she can't control herself, ride herd at least on her emotions, she's probably dangerous.... What use are the angry outbursts which accomplish nothing?


There are two distinct "camps" on this issue. The first (the "first Master yourself" folks) put self discipline above all else. The second put emotional honesty first. There's nothing wrong with either position. The question is simply... which camp do you belong to?

Pam




jay1371 -> RE: Why the anger? (1/1/2013 3:15:57 AM)

Meh...I think if someone wants to rant then let them. I really don't see how ranting about a problem means anything. This is just a question but are you bitter about reading it so much the same way you say female dominants are tired of hearing from men who only want sex? Honestly I kinda see that as rant worthy, and the fact that you see it so often should make you atleast consider the possibility that it's an actual problem. I'm sure not EVERY woman rants about it andfrom your post it seems that the ones who don't are more to your liking. Seek those ones out thay don't rant. By ranting yourself aren't you doing exactly what your ranting against?




TheBoyDownBelow -> RE: Why the anger? (1/1/2013 11:12:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I have to wonder though, does everything being positive have a similar effect? Does it substantiate the myth that Dominant women don't have the full range of emotions?


This is so far my biggest disappointment. As a matter of fact, the big majority of Domme profiles here, have very little or absolute no hints about emotions in their profiles. Everything is too kink centric.




Tantriqu -> RE: Why the anger? (1/1/2013 1:09:49 PM)

Let's see; perhaps because the New Year isn't even a day old, and I've already received a messge that I am going to be raped and left for dead.
The cowards and trolls may only be 17% of the on-line population, but they're loud and leave their shit, spit and piss everywhere; it's left for the good people to step around it and clean it up.
So you elderly white males need to walk a mile in our excrement-stained heels, and get some empathy and boot polish for 2013.




LaTigresse -> RE: Why the anger? (1/1/2013 1:24:24 PM)

I see more anger and whining from males that define themselves as submissive and/or slave than all of the other designations combined.

It makes me very VERY glad I am not looking for a submissive/slave male.

When I see a female rant, I usually expect, and find.......a profile of a hot young thing (faux or not) that isn't getting their way. Not a dominant woman, a spoilt brat girl.




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